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    Default Isreal folau a religious man.

    ISRAEL FOLAU, one of the best rugby full backs in the world, and a kingpin in the Australian team, is about to be banned from playing rugby by Aussie rugby board because of his religious beliefs.
    He has been accused of homophobic comments, which seem to have offended the powers that be in Australian rugby.
    What he actually did was to share a post on instagram stating "drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters" should "repent" and that “hell awaits you” because "only Jesus saves”.
    He is obviously a devout Christian, and deserves, at very least, a bit of respect for that.
    Israel Folau insists he will stand by his homophobic social media comments even if they threaten his future in rugby.
    He has also said he will be “absolutely content” with walking away from rugby if it is what “God wants me to do.”
    Rugby Australia announced their intention to sack the 30-year-old on Thursday “in the absence of compelling mitigating factors”.

    Well tell you what, drunks, adulterers, liars, fornicators,theives,atheists (me in there too) and idolators were all mentioned in his comments, so why have the snowflake brigade picked on the homosexual bit?
    Of all the sinners (in his eyes) mentioned, homosexuals would probably be in the minority!
    Some one tell me why that then becomes the focal point, and major issue.
    Yep I understand he is a superstar and role model for future generations, but why actually take him to task for his christain beliefs?

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    Would these also be sympathisers or folk tolerant of other people’s belief and faiths that subject the same category of “sinners” to the death penalty.

    Sounds less Christian and more like those kerb tellers first Baptist church in the good ol’ U S of A.

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    A typical religious nutjob. Intolerant of anyone else bar himself and probably a hypocrite as so many are. I would say there are easily three of those "sins" he has indulged in at some point in his life. "Drunks", I bet he has had a drink or two with his team mates; "Fornication", he'll have had sex at some stage. "Idolatry". Who worships winning trophies more than an Australian?

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    Strange that you think a "devout" christian deserves a bit of respect? Religion has too much of a voice at it is.

    If you express these views in any work place you would be severely disciplined and might lose your job, why should rugby be any different? Most organisations have codes of conduct that include policies on diversity and anti-discrimination. I assume Folau's employer has the same. Floau knows this and makes his choice accordingly.

    It's his choice to be outspoken about his supernatural beliefs and his employers choice to fire him if he breeches their code of conduct. It's nothing to do with the "snowflake brigade" whatever that is. It's a good example of how increasingly bronze age religious ramblings are at odds with how people want to treat other people.
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    Bert makes a valid point all the same. If Folau had left the word homosexual out of the re-tweet all the drunken atheists like me could fornicate off to hell. Nobody would have cared and he wouldn't have been sacked. As soon as the gay reference appears the world is outraged. There is the true hypocrisy.

    Burn all the churches, topple the temples, and put the priests to work in the fields, I say. Religion never brought us anything but misery and guilt.

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    As soon as the gay reference appears the world is outraged. There is the true hypocrisy.
    I don't agree with that statement at all, out of the group referred to by Folau it's only the gay community which has been victimised and persecuted over the years.

    We liars, drunkards etc. are perfectly capable of getting on with our lives without threat but homosexuals have been murdered, beaten up and mocked over the millenia, being born with that kind of sexuality makes them a target for insecure bigots the world over.

    Hate speech in whatever form it takes, "religious" or otherwise, entrenches and promotes this kind of behaviour. Civilised societies need to go the extra mile in legislating against homophobic speech and actions, it's a sad state of affairs but there it is.
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    I'm struggling with the right to free speech versus the rights of any group not to be discriminated against. In this particular case, as Falau was just expressing his perfectly validly held personal beliefs and not threatening or promoting violence towards any particular group of people, I don't share his views but I'm tending towards free speech.

    By the way 'homophobic" means having a fear of non heterosexual people rather than a hatred or desire to cause harm to them, "islamaphobic" is similarly incorrect in the context in which it is most often used.
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    As an aside, he had already been warned once before as this isn’t the first time he posted this type of statement. He made a choice to violate work conditions and he paid the price, end of story as far as I’m concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sewinbasher View Post
    I'm struggling with the right to free speech versus the rights of any group not to be discriminated against. In this particular case, as Falau was just expressing his perfectly validly held personal beliefs and not threatening or promoting violence towards any particular group of people, I don't share his views but I'm tending towards free speech.
    I too think about free speech and I would not agree with making what he said unlawful (providing he wasn't promoting or inciting hatred or violence). However, just as he can express his beliefs, the organisation that employees him can decide they don't want someone working for them who expresses such prejudicial and discriminatory opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sewinbasher View Post

    By the way 'homophobic" means having a fear of non heterosexual people rather than a hatred or desire to cause harm to them, "islamaphobic" is similarly incorrect in the context in which it is most often used.
    I used the term correctly.

    From the Oxford dictionary "Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people."

    Collins "intense hatred or fear of homosexual people or homosexuality"

    Wiki "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear, and is often related to religious beliefs.[4][5] "
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