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    Those who watch rugby and have BT Sport could do worse than watch Gloucester v Saracens this afternoon; not necessarily for the rugby but for the very warm 'welcome' that the Glos fans are going to give to the alleged 'salary cap cheats'.
    As it happens, I'm hoping for firm conditions as it could be a cracker of a game.

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    A ticket for the ‘Shed’ at Kingsholm should be money well spent today , it should be reaaaaaally spicy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delray View Post
    "the alleged 'salary cap cheats"
    Only a Saracens fan could use the 'a' word there

    PS: Worst ref performance I've seen for a long time. Has Nigel Wray been investing in a Craig Maxwell-Keys company too?
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    Oi!! i'm very impartial........not watched the game, I'll catch up with the highlights later.

    As it happens, I've a season ticket this year.......I may end up watching them play Ampthill et al for the next couple of years.

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    I don’t have much sympathy if they have broken the rules... we’ll see what the appeal outcome is.
    But I do have some sympathy for the reasons behind it... you have the best academy in the league, the starting core of your squad go missing each year for 1/3 rd of the season representing England... all or nearly all of whom came through your academy.... so the outcome is you lose 9 players to England (plus others to ‘lesser’ national sides), so guess what you need a very large squad. If their academy wasn’t so successful and they didn’t have 9 England players they probably wouldn’t need such a large squad.
    So at the end of this, whatever the outcome, I reckon something needs to be done to look at a fairer consideration to this demand.... I can’t remember many teams clamouring about the unfair advantage they have over Sarrie’s when they play them during the 6 nations or autumn internationals.
    I’m not a sarrie’s fan, but England mean way more to me than club rugby, so I don’t want our best player development clubs ruined due to their national representative commitments.
    Saying all that, if they are proven to have broken the cap, they deserve a hard punishment, they needed to have the rules changed not break them.
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    Good point Matt. The challenge is that professional rugby union will seriously struggle in England with a free market approach to squads - could kill it. The sport can't be left to the biggest benefactors. Maybe there needs to be some additional consideration for teams with international representation.

    The way forward is through rule amendment though, not looking for loopholes, or skullduggery (allegedly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrnotherone View Post
    Good point Matt. The challenge is that professional rugby union will seriously struggle in England with a free market approach to squads - could kill it. The sport can't be left to the biggest benefactors. Maybe there needs to be some additional consideration for teams with international representation.

    The way forward is through rule amendment though, not looking for loopholes, or skullduggery (allegedly)
    Yeah it needs to be above board... make it fair for all the teams.
    As an Exeter fan, it is a bit irritating... but tis ‘only rugby’ (admittedly that makes it life and death) and it’s added some spice to the season.
    Looking forward to Chiefs v Bristol today, the sun is out... it could be a cracker!

    And looking further forward I think Chiefs v Sarries in the West Country could be a bit spicy... tickets could be tricky to obtain!

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    I'm with you Matt, I'm an England Rugby fan who just happens to live reasonably close to Saracens home ground.
    It appears to me Wray's advisors thought they'd found a loophole and decided to charge through it without RFU consultation and now may pay the price. The only factor I'm concerned about is losing the conveyor belt of English and English qualified players.
    Even if there's a 35 point deduction, I'll still be watching virtually international rugby every other weekend.
    How about Bristol? Thoroughly enjoyable game which seems to demonstrate again that if Exeter's plan A doesn't work, there doesn't seem to be plan B. Bristol's tackling/defence was fantastic and I'm sure most other sides would have buckled, but not this lot. If Jones re-assesses his squad Hughes surely has to come back into contention.
    Cheers.

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    Northampton. What a delightful side to watch at the moment, and in Rory Hutchison, they have the best centre I have seen in many years, their back play is just wonderful to watch.
    Leicester; packed with internationals and hopeless. Coaches Murphy and Ford (again) must be on thin ice.
    There's no 'mugs' around this year, Leicester and Saracens could struggle getting out of their predicaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delray View Post
    Northampton. What a delightful side to watch at the moment, and in Rory Hutchison, they have the best centre I have seen in many years, their back play is just wonderful to watch.
    Leicester; packed with internationals and hopeless. Coaches Murphy and Ford (again) must be on thin ice.
    There's no 'mugs' around this year, Leicester and Saracens could struggle getting out of their predicaments.
    Yes, great game for the neutral (or someone who doesn't like Leicester ). I thought Proctor was even better than Hutchinson, what a pairing. Quins v Gloucester today might be tasty.
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