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Old 29-11-2017, 05:25 PM
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Default Quite light cane.

I'm fairly pleased with this one. It's a 7'6" #4 and it weighs 64g or 2.2 ounces.
For lightness I turned the cap and ring seat from aluminium. The reel seat insert is cork. The blank is severely hollowed. Measured on the outside it equates to a #5 but the walls are so thinned it is now a fast #4

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The rod is finished with a fine coating of hand rubbed varnish which gives a soft shine.

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The wraps are finished with as little varnish as I could make cover them. The silk is Pearsalls light olive naples (thanks Steven) with highland green gossamer tipping.

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Weighed on my little kitchen scale I use for glue measuring the planed strips started at 69g.

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Once hollowed they dropped to 49g.

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The glued and cleaned blank was 51g.

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And the finished rod is 64g or 2.2 ounces.

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This rod is slightly lighter than some of the graphite equivalents. I might be able to make it a little lighter but the laws of diminishing returns would kick in fairly soon.

I taped up three strips to show what a Powell style hollow rod looks like inside.

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A piece of the waste from the butt end.

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Very tidy work, S
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Old 29-11-2017, 06:01 PM
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Stunning as usual Simon, but I have to say that silk thread makes it.
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Default Re: Quite light cane.

I taped up three strips to show what a Powell style hollow rod looks like inside.

I understand the concept - but wow what a beautiful work of art and craftsmanship
lovely work - as usual

does the hollowing actually count for much in altering the action or is it just a weight consideration ..?

I've used my impregnated Scottie 9'6 7/8wt on the reservoir - yes weight IS a consideration..

BTW - Powell is my surname, born in Wales
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Powell (surname) Powell is a surname of Welsh origin. It is a patronymic form of the Welsh name hywel (later anglicized as Howell), and the prefix "ap" meaning "son of", together forming ap Hywel, or "son of Hywel"
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Tremendous!

Thanks for taking the time to show it off
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always an education well done
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Your doing some ambitious stuff

I recently dipped out on a seven foot 2# with a bamboo ferrule. The pros are happy to do two weights but I just thought it was a little too ambitious for amateur builder, especially with the ferrule. Any thoughts on this?

Ive come close to ordering a five foot 2# most years
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Looks fantastic work.
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Simon, hats off and bended knee. Beautiful work, and to get it to weigh 2.2 oz is quite an achievement. Your own taper?

Thanks for sharing,
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Old 30-11-2017, 08:33 AM
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Stunning as usual Simon, but I have to say that silk thread makes it.
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Steven, you wouldn't believe how much nicer naples is to use than gossamer.

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does the hollowing actually count for much in altering the action or is it just a weight consideration ..?
John, the action will feel a little crisper with a hollowed rod. The pith acts as a damper and slows the recovery a little. Take it away and things feel a liittle quicker. But the effect is minimal, lots of people can't detect it. As to the weight, well it's a couple of ounces in this case. No big deal in short rods really, but in eleven foot switch rods it's the difference between a whole days fishing and half a day followed by a week in recovery. There's a lot of extra weight in the phenolic resin your Scottie is impregnated with.

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Your doing some ambitious stuff

I recently dipped out on a seven foot 2# with a bamboo ferrule. The pros are happy to do two weights but I just thought it was a little too ambitious for amateur builder, especially with the ferrule. Any thoughts on this?

Ive come close to ordering a five foot 2# most years
Beryl, It's no harder to plane a two weight than a five weight. It depends on a good set of forms or mill, and decent planing skills. It's perhaps a little harder gluing up, but if you can stand up and chew gum at the same time you can learn to split cane. It's all muscle memory and attention to detail. Despite what some people want you to believe, there's no voodoo involved. Not art, just craft.
Standard tip over butt bamboo ferrules aren't hard to make, it just hollowing at the end of the section. Fair enough there's a bit more involved, but it's not rocket surgery. If you want to know more the Italian rodmakers have done lots of work on this. You can read about it in their rodmakers journals. Titolo pagina
There's even an excel worksheet available to do the maths for you. Here's a screen shot showing "normal" and "streamlined" versions.

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At the end of the day, it's just making fishin' poles.

Thanks all.
Simon.

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Simon, hats off and bended knee. Beautiful work, and to get it to weigh 2.2 oz is quite an achievement. Your own taper?

Thanks for sharing,
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Kenneth, thanks, yes my own taper.
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