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    Lightbulb Dapping Rod

    First of all I must make my apologies as I have not posted anything since joining due to very low mood. Getting better though and have bought some blanks to make into fly rods.

    Both blanks are for light line dry fly, but, I have also bought an extendable carbon match rod (ebay) that I intend to turn into a dapping rod.

    The rod is an 18-20ft 4-piece, with extender, coarse fishing rod and I was wondering if I replaced the existing guides with snakes and put new butt/tip guides using the same spacing, would this suffice? I also aim to replace the handle and reel seat.

    My thinking is that I will use the rod minus the extender (18ft) when on a boat and use the extender when fishing small Lochans from the shore.

    What thinks you guys? Nothing ventured nothing gained!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caberfeidh View Post
    I was wondering if I replaced the existing guides with snakes and put new butt/tip guides using the same spacing, would this suffice?
    What would be the problem if you just used it with the existing guides?

    Col
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    Default Re: Dapping Rod

    Hello Col, thanks for the reply and apologies for the time in getting back to you.

    I received the rod today and the existing guides are, as expected, ‘stand-off’. The butt guides are three-legged while the others are single, although the rod is in good nick, some of the rings have been bashed about a bit. My feeling is that they are to far away from the blank for a fly-rod and the smaller diameter may hamper the outgoing mono due to friction. Snakes would better, in my opinion, as they would reduce friction and possibly allow the rod to function more appropriately when dapping because of the lower centre of gravity, mu I’m not sure if I’m overthinking. Some of the rings require replacing anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caberfeidh View Post
    Hello Col, thanks for the reply and apologies for the time in getting back to you.

    I received the rod today and the existing guides are, as expected, ‘stand-off’. The butt guides are three-legged while the others are single, although the rod is in good nick, some of the rings have been bashed about a bit. My feeling is that they are to far away from the blank for a fly-rod and the smaller diameter may hamper the outgoing mono due to friction. Snakes would better, in my opinion, as they would reduce friction and possibly allow the rod to function more appropriately when dapping because of the lower centre of gravity, mu I’m not sure if I’m overthinking. Some of the rings require replacing anyway.
    Bear in mind, it's not a 'fly' rod of the type that casts a fly line. It's more akin to a coarse rod in many respects. I have a rod that is absolutely perfect for dapping. It's a 15 foot Grey's trotting rod. It also has narrow-gauge, stand-off coarse rod rings. When I bought it, I thought I might need to change the rings, as they would be too narrow to allow the various joining knots and floss to pass through. I rigged-up my backing to floss, and floss to leader connections as neatly as I could...


    That set-up passes through the rings just fine, and I didn't need to change anything. One big advantage it has over the likes of telescoic rods, and probably even a fly rod, such as a big Spey salmon fly rod (which lots of folk use for dapping) is that the coarse rings have a narrow spacing between them, and this actually aids the floss when wafting it out to get started. It doesn't droop between the rings like gala-day bunting, which it does tend to on the more sparsely ringed telescopic rods. So it ended up with me not changing anything.

    Col
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    Default Re: Dapping Rod

    Excellent info Col, I will keep it in mind when I further examine the rod tomorrow. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Dapping Rod

    My first thought when I read the first few lines was same as Col-why not use the guides already fitted.

    Not much, if any, casting needed to Dap. Boat moves-Dap on. I have the crudest looking dapping rod ever seen. Eyes are held on with black electrical tape (just). No reel seat-a couple of tatty jubilee clips with knobs to hang reel off, whole thing is crude brown (un-varnished) fibre glass blank around 14'. Prob 40-50 yrs old. I build a rod or two over winter and could easily improve the rod but no. It works just fine and I've come to admire it's rough edges. Try yours out before you make any changes, might suprise you.

    Chris
    The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. John Buchan 1st Baron Tweedsmuir.

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