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Old 09-04-2017, 06:01 PM
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He also killed them all!!
Yes, I believe to the equivalent of almost 3 for every day of his best season.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:26 PM
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He also killed them all!!

What a ridiculous comment. How about denigrating Pashley for not being politically correct while you're at it? Just about every other game fisher took fish, until we imported the American invention of c+r. Unfortunately this distorted rewrite of history has become fashionable among the most vociferous advocates of c+r. Perhaps we should all hang our heads in shame at that good day we had back in the 1980s when we took a few fish? Instead of putting about this sort of rubbish you should be promoting the fact that the reason we have any fish at all is due to anglers! If you honestly think Pashley wielding his priest has lead to the demise of the Wye Salmon you need to have a good hard think!

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Old 09-04-2017, 08:41 PM
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If you read my comment in context you might understand better that I was trying to point out that, given our obligation to return fish these days, we are better served by a longer rod to land them quicker.
I was never making a case for C&R or indeed denigrating the behaviour of the Wye Wizard.
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Mr P

My apologies for criticising you out of context. Looking back I accept you were making the point that a 10ft rod is not the best tool to land a salmon quickly. No hard feelings I hope.

While accepting I have jumped the gun in MrP's case, I still hold by my view, that this nonsense of trying to blame modern stocks on anglers taking fish in the past, is damaging to the future interests of angling.

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Aha! SF and C1 are back but in new guises.
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Aha! SF and C1 are back but in new guises.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:43 AM
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Are we sure a 14/15ft 10/11 weight double hander can put more pressure on a fish, than say an 8 weight single hander?

The longer rod aids control of the fly that's all.
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If a shorter rod is to be considered less capable of landing fish how is it that the majority of Wye fish are hooked and landed on spinning rods of 9 or 10 feet long?

A glance at most tackle catalogues will reveal 9 feet rods advertised for catching Tarpon,Sailfish and even Sharks.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:50 AM
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Also my favourite beer! You can get it delivered mail order Colin, not quite as good as from the barrel but not bad.
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Yes Colin, a great beer....would it help if we sent a picture?
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Richard & Gail of the terrific Sun Inn, Winforton very kindly gave us a case of Butty Bach as a leaving present It was consumed with relish! Mind you, being bottle conditioned it didn't appreciate the journey much!

On one occasion I had just enjoyed two early evening pints of BB when pub regular walked in and offered me his rod - as he'd finished for the day. I walked down to the river and caught fresh 10lber first cast - then went back to the pub - smug!

What a pub, what a pint - what a river!
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In my view the length of the rod is far more relevant to line control than quick playing of a fish, it's the test curve irrespective of length that's the most important factor in the time needed to play a fish. A 13' 8wt will take far longer to play a fish out than a 9' 12wt. The quickest way to land a fish is with a spinning rod with a test curve of 2lb or 2.5lbs fished with something like 20lb b.s. line. Of course line diameter does affect the attractiveness of lures and flies so it's a compromise.

I did most of my Wye salmon fishing with a 10' Hardy No.2 spinning rod (or similar) with ABU 6501 multiplier and 17lb Stren reel line with a 15lb Maxima trace and almost never got broken and reckoned roughly 1 minute per lb to land a fresh run salmon. When fly flshing I used a Hardy De Luxe 15' 4" with a 15lb leader unless using small flies when I might come down to the 13' 9" model with a 12lb (or even 10lb) leader. The main problem with lighter and shorter rods is in the size and weight of fly that they can safely throw.
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