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Old 12-08-2017, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

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Surely a case for all sea cage salmonid farms to be classed as the same?
That makes sense but if this particular campaign is trying to blame farming for the action of rainbow breeders they are hardly going to achieve much, if they are that is, maybe they are after invisible salmon farmers
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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

It's perhaps worth mentioning that there was a piece in the weekend FT about salmon farming, mentioning the decline of the Awe's stocks, by Jeremy Paxman.

For those of us who have followed the salmon farming story for years, it probably not particularly revelatory, but nevertheless it's good to see someone with Paxman's profile bringing it to prominence in a publication like the FT.

https://www.ft.com/content/8b73e21a-...1-a13271d1ee9c

Edit PS: The above link may not work, but I think Google will find it for you if you search for "Paxman salmon farming" or something like that.

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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

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It's perhaps worth mentioning that there was a piece in the weekend FT about salmon farming, mentioning the decline of the Awe's stocks, by Jeremy Paxman.

For those of us who have followed the salmon farming story for years, it probably not particularly revelatory, but nevertheless it's good to see someone with Paxman's profile bringing it to prominence in a publication like the FT.

https://www.ft.com/content/8b73e21a-...1-a13271d1ee9c

Edit PS: The above link may not work, but I think Google will find it for you if you search for "Paxman salmon farming" or something like that.
Interesting but nothing that hasn't been said many times before.
In truth the only people that can force a change are the Scottish politicians and at the moment that means the SNP, they seem to be behaving like the three wise monkeys as far as salmon farming is concerned, see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.
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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

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An interesting read , and a bit of a smoking gun.

http://www.lochetive.org/pdfs/FoLE_E...ugust_2016.pdf
Thanks for that, shines a light on the situation.
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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

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Thanks for that, shines a light on the situation.
And here is the eclipse of that light.

'Fishy' business: Salmon sales drive UK food exports to a record high


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Default Re: Unprecedented collapse of salmon run in South-West Highlands underlines failure of Scottish Government to protect wild fish from the catastrophically negative impact of salmon farming

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And here is the eclipse of that light.

'Fishy' business: Salmon sales drive UK food exports to a record high


All that you touch
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All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
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All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come, and everything under the sun, is in tune.
But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.


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Which, of course, is proceeded by Money. I read the same article and drew similar conclussions if not the direct link to Pink Floyd!
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This is a battle lost. The simple fact is salmon farming is vastly more important to the Scottish economy than is rod and line fishing for migratory fish. Fish farming is a major part of the strategy for an independent Scotland, but itís not just the SNP - not even the unionist parties are prepared to reign it in to improve the fishing prospects for what the urban majority see as a few well off toffs with nothing more useful and productive to do with their time. This was being argued over 15 years ago and it will still be argued about 15 years from now. Time to get over it and move on. The brown trout fishing is still widely available, inexpensive and most excellent!
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This is a battle lost. The simple fact is salmon farming is vastly more important to the Scottish economy than is rod and line fishing for migratory fish. Fish farming is a major part of the strategy for an independent Scotland, but itís not just the SNP - not even the unionist parties are prepared to reign it in to improve the fishing prospects for what the urban
majority see as a few well off toffs with nothing more useful and productive to do with their time. This was being argued over 15 years ago and it will still be argued about 15 years from now. Time to get over it and move on. The brown trout fishing is still widely available, inexpensive and most excellent!
Maybe so, maybe so, but, and it's a huge but, getting over it and moving on dismisses the far reaching effects of salmon farming as it is practiced at the moment. Almost everything in the environment is connected to everything else in some way, including we humans, causing such a huge imbalance in nature for profit, and it is just that, we don't need farmed salmon to survive, will eventually catch up with us and by then it will probably be too late to reverse the changes that have taken place.
We rape the sea's to produce fish and pig feed, the seabird numbers are already collapsing, and even taking Wrasse from other areas is damaging their marine environment, so it's not just around the sea cages that damage is caused.
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This is a battle lost. The simple fact is salmon farming is vastly more important to the Scottish economy than is rod and line fishing for migratory fish. Fish farming is a major part of the strategy for an independent Scotland, but itís not just the SNP - not even the unionist parties are prepared to reign it in to improve the fishing prospects for what the urban majority see as a few well off toffs with nothing more useful and productive to do with their time. This was being argued over 15 years ago and it will still be argued about 15 years from now. Time to get over it and move on. The brown trout fishing is still widely available, inexpensive and most excellent!
It is a battle lost if all the bullets fired concentrate on salmon, sea trout and sea lice. The urban masses do not care.
By concentrating fire on the long term harm chemical residues are doing, the industry will be forced to clean up.
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Can you be more specific about the chemical residues you talk about? What chemicals exactly?
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