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    Default How's the salmon season started?

    Wondered what the general concensus was about this years salmon? Early I know but what's the start looking like?
    A few from the Naver but Dee and Spey a bit slow?
    Haven't heard a hatchery cry yet but guessing it's only a matter of time.

    Reg Wyatt

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    The Wye is on 63 so far, better than the very poor 2018 but significantly, more than half are from between Hereford and Monmouth as water levels have been a bit high for the lower beats so far.

    It's a bit early to say but this sort of total at this stage of the year would suggest a slightly poorer season than typical over the past dozen or so years.
    “There is no more lovely country than Monmouthshire in early spring. Nowhere do the larks sing quite so passionately, as if somehow inspired by the Welsh themselves. There is a blackbird on every thorn and a cock chaffinch, a twink as they call him there, on every bush...... It moved me profoundly. I had been spared to see another spring, and I thank God for it.”

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    No news is actually bad news methinks and the lack of response on this thread speaks volumes.
    Lower Test has had three. Hampshire Avon has had four!
    In Scotland the Dee numbers look awful but not sure on elsewhere. A pretty poor report on BBC news this morning apparently?

    Reg Wyatt

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    Way up north we had some rain a few weeks ago but that is still early. If it rains in mid May and nothing is caught then we can worry. The Thurso web site shows a number of fish off, not checked for a while but with the spring tides that may have gone up last week.

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    I think your right Reg, I read in the shooting times this morning that salmon numbers caught this year are at the lowest on record.
    I was only flicking through it I'll update this after I read the full article.

    Al

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    Here's the link to the BBC news item. The cause might be hotly debated but the outcome is really concerning.
    Scotland's wild salmon stocks 'at lowest ever level' - BBC News
    https://fishingfortrout.blog

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    There was no water last year until the back end, so in some ways that skews the figures one way. On the other hand increased C&R must skew the figures to the other end - I caught the same fish twice last year on different days and this must happen a lot? Compare that to low levels of C&R in previous decades and the real salmon returns are worse than the figures may show?

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrnotherone View Post
    Here's the link to the BBC news item. The cause might be hotly debated but the outcome is really concerning.
    Scotland's wild salmon stocks 'at lowest ever level' - BBC News
    As CodYarrow said the complete lack of water and very high temperatures last year explain the very low rod catch. Low rod catch and low stock are not the same thing.
    I know one river in the north last year had just four for July and none in August whereas they would normally expect several hundred. The water was so low and warm that the rods mainly didn't fish as hooking and playing a fish in those conditions would almost certainly have killed it.
    Again it is early days but the fish that came in on the big tides in my neck of the woods ran very fast upriver which is usually taken as a sign of no rain coming soon. A repeat of last year? Probably (hopefully) not!

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    Let's hope for some decent rain.
    As an aside; A few of my mates are fed up with the doom and gloom of recent years salmon fishing in Scotland so decided to fulfill a lifetimes dream and booked Park on the Dee. Staying in the house with cook etc. Fishing has not been good, very expensive but just somewhere they've always wanted to go. Asked if it was ok to take a few bottles of their own wine. Got an email reply this week, corkage is £25 a bottle! Unbelievablely bad PR and my mates are now seriously thinking of cancelling. These fishing beats need to rethink and learn fast before the total collapse of the fishing industry.

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    Default Re: How's the salmon season started?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Wyatt View Post
    Let's hope for some decent rain.
    As an aside; A few of my mates are fed up with the doom and gloom of recent years salmon fishing in Scotland so decided to fulfill a lifetimes dream and booked Park on the Dee. Staying in the house with cook etc. Fishing has not been good, very expensive but just somewhere they've always wanted to go. Asked if it was ok to take a few bottles of their own wine. Got an email reply this week, corkage is £25 a bottle! Unbelievablely bad PR and my mates are now seriously thinking of cancelling. These fishing beats need to rethink and learn fast before the total collapse of the fishing industry.

    Reg Wyatt
    Shocking PR but it might be a sign that some beats don't see much for the long term and are milking it whilst they can. When the Wye crashed about 20 years ago the beat owners turned to barbel but Scotland doesn't have that option.
    “There is no more lovely country than Monmouthshire in early spring. Nowhere do the larks sing quite so passionately, as if somehow inspired by the Welsh themselves. There is a blackbird on every thorn and a cock chaffinch, a twink as they call him there, on every bush...... It moved me profoundly. I had been spared to see another spring, and I thank God for it.”

    Oliver Kite
    “A Spring Day on the Usk”
    A Fisherman’s Diary

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