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    Default Salmon numbers at crisis point

    I am a trout fisher, but when I read headlines such as these below, I feel your pain.
    How has it been allowed to get to this stage?

    ''SALMON NUMBERS AT CRISIS POINT IN TWEED'' - Front page in my local rag the Peeblesshire.


    Some extracts


    ''A report this week by the Scottish government shows that dwindling numbers of the iconic fish is putting at risk the industry which is worth around 24 million to the local economy and supports an estimated 500 jobs''

    ''This week's report shows that rod catches on the river Tweed last year were at their lowest level ever recorded -only 5,510, and when compared to the 2010 figure of 22,718 the dramatic drop also hit home for conservation experts''

    ''The release of the official catch statistics this week shows Scottish salmon levels are the lowest since records began in 1952''

    The article goes on to say that Scottish government now have a historic opportunity to do everything in their power to safeguard the species in those areas where they can make a difference.


    Grim statistics which I'm sure will sadden every angler, irrespective of their quarry.
    However, I'm sure the Scottish Government will sort it all out!



    Douglas
    Last edited by eddleston123; 26-04-2019 at 06:34 PM.

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    We're allowing nature to get hammered for the sake of a minority's profits, it's avoidable and unacceptable. Until we begin to act in a sustainable manner we're sunk, the science that would change the situation is available, we choose to ignore it
    Musha rig um du rum da

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    As many on here will know I used to work for the EA in fisheries. I used to visit the National Fisheries Labs at Brampton from time to time in connection with samples of fish for health checks and fish mortality investigations.

    My No3 grandson is 13 and is expressing an interest in fish biology so I contacted Brampton who agreed to give him a tour round & show him the "works" which have come on in leaps and bounds since I retired. They are now doing a load of work on virology, histology and bacteriology as well and looking for the various internal and external parasites.

    One such parasite that was originally found in Sweden is called Gyrodactylus salaris, which as it name suggests is fairly specific to salmon. In Sweden it has caused minor damage to salmon stocks, but somehow found its way to Norway where it proceeded to totally devastate Atlantic salmon populations in a great many river systems. The EA and NFL were sufficiently alarmed at this parasite that they decided to work with the Norwegian authorities and check what effect it might have on UK salmonids.

    They sent over samples of live salmon, brown trout and grayling and exposed them to the parasite. Grayling basically laughed at it, brown trout showed some effects and mortalities, but not major, the salmon were competely slaughtered by it. NFL are convinced that it is not a case of if this nasty little bug shows up over here but when, and the effects will make everything else pale into insignificance.

    There are three members of the Gyrodactylus family and salaris is distinguished from the others by the most minute physical difference visible only under an electron microscope and to someone who knows what to look for.

    You salmon anglers had best go down on your knees and pray to whatever gods you like that this little nasty stays on the other side of the North Sea, and that the person looking through the microscope is good enough to spot the little b*gger.

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    At this rate there will be no salmon for gyrodactylus to infect. The threat of GS is well known and has been in the flyfishing press for over a decade, it's what caused the disinfection rules in Norway but it's well worth pointing out again BobP

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    I've had quite a few trip's out for the salmon this season mostly on a wee river up north, the group that I fish with are all very experienced salmon fisher's and usually catch a fair share of fish have yet to get one from this river, myself only landing a well mended kelt so far, we have seen the amount of fish returning declining over the past few years even though we've had some good day's.

    We could count on one hand the amount of fresh fish that we've seen this season on this river, we'd usually see the same amount setting up the rods but sadly they just aren't there so far this season for whatever reasons

    I also fish the tweed and since we had that bumper season when I had fish running up behind me and through my legs while standing 3ft from the bank there has been a rapid decline in the numbers each season
    Wether its problems at sea, FEB'S which the tweed has serious amounts of right up into the very upper river and spawning burns , massive deforestation in the upper catchment, it really is a sad state of affairs for salmon on this beautiful river

    The Scottish Government sorting this look at the mess they have made of the west coast
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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    I'm not a salmon angler. Could someone who is a salmon angler explain why they continue to fish for salmon when these fish are in decline ?
    https://sussex-trout-fishing.com/

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    Quote Originally Posted by sofasurfer View Post
    I'm not a salmon angler. Could someone who is a salmon angler explain why they continue to fish for salmon when these fish are in decline ?
    Hardly a fish that isn't in decline, in fairness.
    Anglers are generally C&R, and massively benefit local economies.
    A better question would be why commercials are allowed to catch them for personal profit.

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    "A better question would be" . . . .

    that's a politicians way of avoiding the question, pose another question :-)

    I have the opportunity to fish for salmon and sea trout but I choose not to on principle. I'm curious how salmon anglers justify their fishing, to themselves more than other people.
    https://sussex-trout-fishing.com/

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    Quote Originally Posted by sofasurfer View Post
    I'm not a salmon angler. Could someone who is a salmon angler explain why they continue to fish for salmon when these fish are in decline ?
    Aint the fishing for them is the issue. Is the killing of them, and the continued arguments about why those who do kill them should continue to so do.
    Madness.

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    bert

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    Default Re: Salmon numbers at crisis point

    Quote Originally Posted by sofasurfer View Post
    I'm not a salmon angler. Could someone who is a salmon angler explain why they continue to fish for salmon when these fish are in decline ?
    I'll admit that at first glance it does seem odd and if being totally honest the reason I still do it is because I'm addicted to the thrill of it. But remember that aside from salmon anglers there is no one who give a flying **** for the fate of wild salmon so if we all give up there would be no one left to fight their corner. If it wasn't for paying anglers almost every estate in Scotland would sell out to the fish farmers. As it is there are enough of the greedy ****s (starts with "c") who sell both wild fishing and take money from fish farmers.

    Also don't forget that not everywhere is going down the drain, healthy stocks remain in quite a few areas.

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