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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Wyatt View Post
    I was disappointed with it but not surprised by its lack of bite. The BBC is run by PC loving, health and safety inspired spineless, keep the status quo people. The whole programme was ludicrously stage managed with pre determined questions and answers so that all were in agreement about any legal problems. Hard hitting documentaries are a thing of the past as is the investigative journalism of the BBC.

    We like to buy cheap as chips salmon. End of. Should we stop campaigning? Of course not but let's not expect too much help from the BBC.

    Reg Wyatt
    The BBC is a broadcaster, not an environmental campaigner. Unfortunately I missed the programme, but S&T Cons are beginning to have success here, and with a growing environmental awareness (not before time) we might just see some substantial change, and Panorama can only help.

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Wyatt View Post
    I was disappointed with it but not surprised by its lack of bite. The BBC is run by PC loving, health and safety inspired spineless, keep the status quo people. The whole programme was ludicrously stage managed with pre determined questions and answers so that all were in agreement about any legal problems. Hard hitting documentaries are a thing of the past as is the investigative journalism of the BBC.

    We like to buy cheap as chips salmon. End of. Should we stop campaigning? Of course not but let's not expect too much help from the BBC.

    Reg Wyatt
    Agree. I watched with interest, but saw nothing new apart from a few sorry looking fish. there was precious little about the mass escapes of tens of thousands of fish, the interaction and competition with wild stocks, interbreeding etc, not to mention the health risks of eating this sh1t. People need to start realising that foods like salmon, caviar, even the lowly cod are not sustainable as cheap meals.

    The program made much of one huge farm having 700 tons more biomass than it was licensed for. I don't know, but would guess this is a small fraction of what they hold at any time and would show up at grading time anyway.
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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    This has been going on for decades.This is what has stunted the wild fish migrations.British Columbia have been fighting the government for years and one of the the main culprits is the Norwegian Marine Harvest Organisation.All we had last night was lip service.It is catastrophic what has been allowed to happen.The farms were never set up to take the numbers they put in so the inevitable happens and millions die plus destroys everything around it.It really is one of those situations where money talks and Bull***t walks.Tragic and will only get worse until they use contained units and adhere to limits.On the retail side it is just one big lie and goddam it people believe it. Unbelievable.Japanese do not seem to have these aquaculture problems and they farm the sea or maybe they do but we just do not hear about it.

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    To the various posters who thought it was very tame and pulled its punches...

    You must not have seen some of the programmes supposedly exposing the salmon farming industry that I have seen in the past. Compared to them, this one was hard-hitting!

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    I agree it's a question of your starting perspective. Imagine you don't fish and have never heard or seen the problems; this panorama was probably like the sex pistols in 76 for most people watching - where as all of you are viewing as New York Dolls and Stooges Fans.
    Compared to Landward this was a step up; there were some points about 'sustainability' the interviewer could have raised. The ratio of energy for producing 1kg of meat in terms of chicken and beef is 1:40 ; salmon would be somewhere in between?. A chicken takes 7 weeks to reach weight the salmon take a few years - how much more oceanic foodstuffs does a kg of farmed salmon cost to the planet than other forms of protein?

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    It seems a bit silly to blame the BBC for nationally broadcasting a pile of issues that we want broadcasting.

    With a enough information and public pressure they could move onto the public health issues of farmed salmon next.

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    There was a program on years back about the health risks of eating farmed salmon, the part that sticks in my mind was the nervous chap being asked how many portions was safe to eat, if memory serves me correctly 1 portion per week and pregnant women should not eat it, does anyone remember that?

    I see today MOWI are being investigated by SEPA I'm sure they'll be shaking at that since SEPA already allow them to operate as is while destroying the environment.
    Is it purely coincidence that salmon numbers started to decline just as salmon farming started?

    I thought the program was quite good but could have covered the tons that escape and have been killed by the thermo lance, i also think the exposure makes a case for the RSPCA if you me or farmer Giles kept live stock in that condition we would rightly so get the jail.

    I'm very hopeful that this is the start of something but I'm not optimistic money is king and the Scottish government doesn't give a toss.

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    Can only hope that this starts a more intensive scrutiny of the industry than has been seen so far. Not holding my breath though, the Scottish government has clearly decided that the West Coast is to be (further) sacrificed to the interests of salmon farmers and tax returns. This is clear from the blocking of a moratorium on expansion until the industry complies with regulation, and the tacit agreement to permit a doubling of theoretical capacity. Theoretical because overloading is commonplace. Our wild fisheries have gone, probably for generations, or ever.

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    I haven't eaten salmon since I left the industry, even then I was wary, that's since 1985, the program highlighted SEPAs shortcomings the industry has been almost un regulated for 30+ years so SEPA is only catching up now, easker1

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    Default Re: Salmon farming exposed - BBC1 8.30pm

    I was disappointed with SEPA and from what was shown last night, I would go as far as saying corrupt.
    The check on a farm re lice infestation, no worries, then a week or so later, concern from a third party which triggered a second visit and things were not right .
    We used to have village idiots but with the advent of the internet, they've gone global.

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