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  1. #11
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    Default Re: new to saltwater fly fishing for european sea bass!

    Hello iaimortimer! i have succes at topwater with spin but not with popers. only walk the dog and waking lures...so i am intrested more on sliders divers and gurglers for topwater fly fish! those types of flies i think it will be more effective in clear calm water or with a small breeze at maximum!with murky waters waves and noise the wake on the surface water will be no visible to the fish so i dont think it is wise to fish them in rough condtions.can i fish sliders and divers with intermediate line?
    For line i ll take the airflo cold saltwater line in 8wt and i think its for the flies i want to fish!
    As for rod i ll buy airflo bluetooth nano 8/9 weight 9' long! the heavy wind conditions here are rare thats why i selct an 8wt!
    Yes i have a lot of mullet here in greece some of them are pretty big 2kilos but for some reason this fish never atrracted me
    As for leaders... you advice me to fish a straight leader and not tapered? the ring is for not cutting the leader when i change tippet?
    As for flies i havent think about it yet but remember a thing! IN mediteranean sea we dont have sandeells.. althoght sandeel patersn at spinning like savage gear sandeel works great here!

  2. #12
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    Default Re: new to saltwater fly fishing for european sea bass!

    The mullet can be hard work to catch but they are called cold water bonefish for good reason - they fight much harder than all other sea fish I can get on the fly and so don't be put off by their docile appearance!

    Back to the bass though,

    You can use tapered leaders but I've never found the need so avoid the expense of buying them or going to the trouble of making my own as I do for dry fly fishing and yes, the ring is so that you can change the end as needed rather than having to replace the whole thing.

    That Savage Gear Sandeel and similar soft plastic designs are my favourite lure - they really do work everywhere - as well as topwaters like the Xorus Patchinko and Frosty and so I know where you're coming from. An intermediate line will work sliders and divers although in the main the flies will be neither for you'll impart action through the 'wriggling' of the fibres used and by varying the retrieve. As with lures, if you're in murky water you'll probably want yellow, chartreuse or black flies. You can also incorporate rattles in bigger flies - I use the same kind as I insert in soft plastics when wanting more noise.

    If you look up 'Clouser minnow' and 'Deceiver' those patterns are a great place to start. You might find this blog a useful read: Silver Scales Fly Tying
    Last edited by iainmortimer; 17-04-2018 at 10:55 AM.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: new to saltwater fly fishing for european sea bass!

    Yes the truth is that mullet is a very stong fish and it doesnt seem so at the first look! but still it cant get my eye! i dont like it cooked too and it is very easy to catch them with match-fishing!

    well so i must use simple leaders right? no tapered or knoted. one simple question.can you use a snap at the end of the tippet like at spinning? it will make your life a lot easier when changing flies! or the snap make the flies action worse so you need a loop knot to take the best of the flies action?

    savage gear sandeel worked here in greece very well but our bass have not see a sandeel in all of their life. so i think is the action that made them to sttrike and not some image from their life.

    yes in murky waters i think charteuse ,white/pink,gold/red will work! with added rattle maybe it will be even better especxially when you have murky water and a lot of noise from wind and waves.

    thanks for the blog i already read some very nice articles!
    and one last question. how can you compare fly fishing against spinning at seabass fishing?
    Last edited by gooner; 18-04-2018 at 08:58 AM.

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