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    Portland Harbour on Sunday afternoon out on my Hobbie Kayak and 1st chuck produced my hoped for target.

    I really couldn't believe it.
    I've been hoping one of these would turn up someday but didn't think I'd much chance. ;-)

    Black Bream-blackbream_portland_-2-jpg

    That superb start soon went downhill though and it was a bit of a struggle out there.

    I eventually added a couple of red band fish and a fat Bass that took a tiny #16 squirmy worm fly I was using to temp the bandfish out of their burrows.

    It worked out to be about one fish per mile of paddling and we did about 8/9 miles!

    Happy with that 1st fish though even if I'd had nothing else.

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    Tasty, baked on a bed of tomato's, yum.

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    In the morning we fished Weymouth harbour off the rocks/bank.
    Hard work mainly because I didn't have any of the right patterns for the small wrasse but I managed 5 of these little corkwings.
    With the right flies I might have had 20 plus.
    Black Bream-weymouth_portland-6th-july-2019-jpg

    Later out in Portland of the kayak I had a couple of Red Band Fish to size 16 short squirmy flies that I usually use on the GUC for small perch!


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    I catch them pretty much at will now I know where they are and what to do to temp them. ;-)


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    A very interesting thread, I have to admire your ability to coax the Red Band Fish out of their home and congratulations on the Bream too.

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    Good effort on the bream. There's a bunch of us trying to get one on fly for ages. And I have never even seen one of those red band fish before!!
    There is usually some decent pollack in portland by the outer walls and squid by the pier of course.

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    I had a gilthead bream when Oz first started his guiding down in Cornwall - we were out in our kayaks at the time because he was thinking of adding kayak fishing to his repertoire, before he got Zen2. My bream took a small clouser tied as a shrimp too, but mine was in chartreuse over white. I had a couple of them, close in to the rocks over broken sand.

    The red band fish is a first though. They are a bit deep in Plymouth sound, the mud bank is about 60 feet down. Plenty there on sabikis and this time of year they come up to mid water for breeding. Sometimes you get a full house on a string of sabikis! I only say that because they don't need tempting out of their burrows at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailing Loop View Post
    I had a gilthead bream when Oz first started his guiding down in Cornwall - we were out in our kayaks at the time because he was thinking of adding kayak fishing to his repertoire, before he got Zen2. My bream took a small clouser tied as a shrimp too, but mine was in chartreuse over white. I had a couple of them, close in to the rocks over broken sand.

    The red band fish is a first though. They are a bit deep in Plymouth sound, the mud bank is about 60 feet down. Plenty there on sabikis and this time of year they come up to mid water for breeding. Sometimes you get a full house on a string of sabikis! I only say that because they don't need tempting out of their burrows at that time.
    Interesting to see those red band fish, checked them out at

    Red Bandfish | Britishseafishing.co.uk

    Red bandfish have been eaten by humans since ancient times. The Sicilian-born cook Mithaikos who was influential in Greece in the fifth century BC wrote a recipe for red bandfish in which he advised cooking the fish in olive oil and then adding cheese. This recipe survives due to being quoted in the famous book Deipnosophistae which was published in the third century AD, and is believed to be the oldest known recipe by a named author.
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    So what is better than a black bream on the fly?
    Answer : A red bream!

    A few weeks back I ventured out in Plymouth harbour - my 1st trip out in a yak from there but I've fished off the rocks and walls for mini species a couple of times.
    I was a little choppy and not too pleasant afloat but I didn't care as my 1st proper fish of the session (had a few mackies first) was this:

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    I didn't even realize it was red when I took it's picture - bright sun and dark glasses. ;-)
    When looking at the picture back on tera firma though...

    I was chuffed when I thought it was another black bream but when I saw it was red I was uber shocked. Another new species.

    It came from 32 foot which is pretty shallow as I read they are usually more like 100ft plus down.
    Doubt I'll see another anytime - ever!

    After that I paddled out to the outer harbour walls and bagged up!

    14 bass up to around 4lb (smallest maybe 1.5lb) plus lots of big mackies. I even had 2 double headers of bass!
    Great sport but the paddle back was a nightmare. an hour plus of rough (far a yak) seas was not fun and totally knackering too.
    It's surprising how rough even a sheltered (but big) harbour can get in even moderate winds with the tide in the right (wrong) direction. It was quite hairy. Finally rounding the final jetty into calm water was such a relief.

    After chilling out for a couple of hours (it was needed after the paddle in)we headed to Brixham for a last couple of hours off the rocks and hopefully some mini species.
    I had a new Sunray Zero fly rod that I was dying to try on some little wrasse - it didn't disappoint.

    I had a few corkwing wrasse and pollock but Lee who was with me managed 2 goldsinny wrasse! A species I've been trying to hook for a few years now and he did it on some of my flies!
    At least I know they can be caught on a fly as I was beginning to have doubts.

    I could be disappointed though as it was a superb day that had a bit of everything.
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    Black Bream-red-bream-jpgBlack Bream-red-bream-jpg
    Hopefully this time there is a red bream picture above!
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    Looks like my fish identification might have been incorrect.
    I now think that was actually a Couches Bream not a red bream.
    Either way I'm just as chuffed.
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