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Old 06-09-2016, 07:56 AM
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Default line weight for new rod

I've just bought a (used) Hardy Shadow 10'0" #7 as a second rod for Towy sea trout. It is described as medium/tip action. I'll be rigging for skating flies at night. Does anyone own this spec? And if so would it be 'happy' with a #8 line or might it get ratty? BTW my main rod is an old Sage SP and that's fine when over-lined. Grateful for any prior knowledge chaps.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:00 AM
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I am sure it will be OK over-lined by just one weight, in fact it might soften the action slightly.
I just bought a load of John Norris' mill end lines so that I could play with over- and under-lining a bunch of my rods: it's quite an interesting exercise.
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The idea of over-lining a rod at night is to minimise the amount of false-casting & get your lure back into the fishing zone as quickly as possible. This will not put too much stress or strain on your rod. Go for it.
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If its for a seven try a seven
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Unless I have been labouring under a serious delusion for many years, the rating of a rod is based on someone's opinion of the line which suits it best with roughly 30 feet outside the tip. Now there are two points here.
First, the "someone" doing the rating will be a much better-than-average caster, with superior tracking, tighter loops and generating higher line speed (the late Steven Parton did the job for Shakespeare for years, and I seem to remember he was a 50-yard caster with either hand!), and, anyway, the result is always going to be highly subjective.
Second, aerialise another few feet of, say, a seven weight DT or longer-belly WF, and you have the equivalent of 30 feet of an eight weight. Conversely, aerialise a bit less and you have the equivalent of a six weight.
By the way, your rod will be fine with an eight.
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Unless I have been labouring under a serious delusion for many years, the rating of a rod is based on someone's opinion of the line which suits it best with roughly 30 feet outside the tip. Now there are two points here.
First, the "someone" doing the rating will be a much better-than-average caster, with superior tracking, tighter loops and generating higher line speed (the late Steven Parton did the job for Shakespeare for years, and I seem to remember he was a 50-yard caster with either hand!), and, anyway, the result is always going to be highly subjective.
Second, aerialise another few feet of, say, a seven weight DT or longer-belly WF, and you have the equivalent of 30 feet of an eight weight. Conversely, aerialise a bit less and you have the equivalent of a six weight.
By the way, your rod will be fine with an eight.
That's rather succinctly put Angus!
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That's rather succinctly put Angus!
What's written on the rod butt is a starting point but bears no relation to where or how you're fishing.
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Totally depends on your style and what you are comfortable with.
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As I have discovered this last season(not sea trout admittedly) weight forward lines cause a few problems when changing line weights on the rod.
Too heavy a line means that your well into the belly of the line making shooting more difficult.
Too light a line and the belly is outside the rod tip by too much before the rod is loaded. That's where I loose control of it, but then I'm not the best caster around.
A tailor made shooting head would be the answer but they were not nice to handle when I used mono running(shooting) line. Haven't used a modern one.
I have a feeling that double taper lines might perform better in some circumstances and I've decided to try them next year.
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Totally depends on your style and what you are comfortable with.
I'm generally smart but casual and most comfortable in wool, should I overline?

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Surely what the OP needs to know is that overlining works well if casting short, effectively correcting to a comfortable casting weight because he is not using all of the effective weight of the line.

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