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Tangled, you keep trotting out the term 'optimal loading' but have not been able to actually define what you mean by it. So I think it's a fair question and would probably help this discussion along if you answered it.

From my perspective, and I've said this before, I'm not worried about this creating increased competition etc. and don't feel at all threatened by it. The issue I have is the inference that you can become a fishing guide after a weeks course. It is after all being sold as a Guide course and not...

Thing is Tangled, continually asking questions like this just serves to demonstrate your fundamental misunderstanding in this whole subject. So... Firstly, this rod could be loaded to any amount of flex with any amount of line outside the rod tip. Loading is dependant on power input from the...

But Tangled, have you ever cast one?

I have a client who I've now taken out a few times who is an ex 1st Class cricketer and a scratch golfer. You'd of thought he'd have picked fly-casting up easily... nope!

That's very interesting, I believe that kinaesthetic learners make up a very small proportion of people but maybe as you say they are the ones drawn fly fishing. I supposes that by default most fly casting tuition is kinaesthetic.

Analogies work well for some, not as well for other. It's not that they don't understand them, it's just that they can't relate them to actual casting. A lot depends if they are visual, auditory or kinesthetic learners. Half the challenge is working out which one they are, it obviously gets...

Tangled will be along in a minute to tell us what's wrong and put us all right!

Just to take your analogy a bit further... maybe consider it as going from learner driver to driving instructor in a week...

I've seen grayling take a dropper fly when the point has been snagged and I've been trying to free it. No 'dead drift' just a fly fluttering fixed in the current.

As I've said before, it's a free and unregulated market. FB charges the maximum it's thinks people will pay and pays the guides the minimum they think they can get away with... a fairly strong capitalist business model. I do feel that the 'request' to tip is a bit of a 'stealth-tax' but if it...

I thought that was your preserve?!

When I do bring in my own evidence in the form of personal experience... you summarily dismiss it.

You state that if a rod throws a line further, it is more powerful. The T5 is the most powerful' rod in the test you cited but doesn't throw the longest distance. Simple enough explanation for you?

Tangled said: Yup, If it throws the line further, it makes it more powerful. This is somewhat at odds with the article you linked featuring the T5...

Prices are higher 'darn sarf' but so are day tickets.

Was there much of a difference between the distance from point fly to dropper?

I'm happy with a tip if I think I've earned it, but don't expect it and certainly don't put it into writing as an expectation at the end of the day.

He's an 'odd' chap.... If you were shocked by his views on Covid, don't go anywhere near his ones on Islam...

Good plan, speak to the local guides first and get them on-side.. otherwise you'll be frozen out and never get back in!