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  1. #1
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    Default Shopping for a new hip pack

    I've spent last 2 days reading reviews and selecting my new hip pack. I don't need a fully waterproof pack, as I mainly fish small streams and seldom wade above waist deep. Also, these waterproof packs are usually simpler (only one main waterproof compartment) and much more expensive. As I live in Slovakia, availability was an important factor. My local shops don't stock these, so my observation are based on online information and reviews. These are my notes on the process so far, hopefully they might help someone.

    Patagonia Stealth Hip Pack

    Patagonia Stealth Fly Fishing Hip Pack 10L

    There is an older 7l version (dark letters on the front panel) that has been replaced by a new 10l version (light letters). Best deal I found is at Farlows.co.uk for £69.99. You can get a £20 discount on purchase over £100 if you sign up for their newsletter.

    Higlights
    Front pocket can work as a workstation with removable fly foam patch
    2 pockets on the belt
    Hypalon gear keeper with hidden magnet to prevent hanging metal gear from clinking
    10 liters / 623 grams

    Reviews
    [ame]https://youtu.be/ChDWKl3XL6c[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3krn4Mm6k[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcHsTzqwLkE[/ame]
    Review: Patagonia Stealth Hip Pack | Hatch Magazine - Fly Fishing, etc.
    http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/fly-fish...-hip-pack.html
    Patagonia Stealth Hip Pack | Kustjägaren | The Silver Bums

    Cons
    No D ring for a landing net
    According to one review, can be top heavy when overloaded

    Umpqua Ledges 500 or 650

    https://umpqua.com/products/packs-an...-zs-waist-pack

    This was my favorite from the start as I like the design and features (sleek profile, hidden zinger ports, hemo sheath...).

    Older version can be found for around $80 on Ebay (both 500 and 650) as these have been replaced with a new ZS (Zero Sweep) model. Unfortunately, it's impossible to buy it in Europe for a reasonable price (best offer I found was for 159€) When bought directly from US, the postage and import fees double the price making it 140+€.

    Fishpond Waterdance

    Manufacturer's website is broken at the moment. According to reviews, this is the most popular hip pack among guides on the other side of the pond. I've found the best deal at uttings.co.uk for £89.99. Unfortunately, their shipping to Slovakia is £20.00 making it quite expensive even with the 10% discount for signing up for newsletter.

    Highlights
    Front pocket can work as a work station with removable fly foam patch
    Dimensions 428 cu. in., 11” x 7” x 9.5” (7 liters, 28 x 18 x 24cm)
    Compression straps for adjusted fit

    Reviews
    The Drag Free Drift: Gear Review: Fishpond Waterdance Guide Pack
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUYnBxOdae0[/ame]
    Fishpond Waterdance Guide Pack - Tackle Video Review
    Bows and Browns: Fishpond Waterdance Guide Pack Review
    Fishpond Waterdance Guide Pack Review | Fishpond Waist Packs

    Cons
    Seems big for 7 liters capacity
    Quite deep when fully loaded

    Simms Waypoints Large Hip Pack

    https://www.simmsfishing.com/shop/ve...ack-large.html

    I like the compression straps at the bottom to keep an extra layer or a rain jacket below the pack. On the other hand, there are no water bottle pockets. Available for £129 at Farlows. It's quite pricy and I can buy a Patagonia Stealth + 2 Wychwood car seat protectors, Leeda magnetic fishing net, 3 Hardy leaders, Dry shake floatant and Aquasure for the same price..

    Vision Love Handles

    VISION - IN FLY FISHING: Vests / Bags / Tubes, Love handels

    Can be found for around £50, but the design and build quality seems to be slightly worse than the competition. Looks like a good cheaper alternative though.

    William Joseph Surge Chest Pack

    Most expensive pack I've found because of the patented magnetic system that replaces the regular zippers. Available for £149.99 at Farlows (£129.99 after discount). Very nice pack, but similar to Simms, this is double the price of Patagonia Stealth Hip Pack.

    Reviews
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi-j1XWEQfU[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF_QDbMIHGY[/ame]
    [ame]https://youtu.be/0Awq6joB8oc?t=1m52s[/ame]
    William Joseph Mag Surge or fishpond waterdance
    http://www.flyfishingpoint.net/en/ar...s-on-the-flats
    William Joseph - 2 products review - Gallery | FlyFishingPoint.net

    Conclusion

    So far, I'm set on a Patagonia Stealth Hip Pack. It seems to provide the best bang for the buck. Fishpond Waterdance would be my second choice. If price was no objection, I'd go with Umpqua 650 ZS.

    What do you guys think? Do you have any other tips or recommendations? Do you have any hands-on experience with any of the above?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by unluckypete; 08-01-2017 at 08:48 PM. Reason: New video for JW Surge

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    i have used the vision love handles and was not impressed with the quality of the product i would take this off your choices. 🖒

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  3. #3
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    I went through the same exercise a few weeks ago and bought the Fishpond Nimbus. Not used it properly yet of course but no regrets and it feels very comfortable.
    Bit of a Patagonia fan normally but did not take to the Stealth because the arrangement of pockets did not suit me. Prefer fewer but larger ones. Also looked at Orvis packs but still preferred the Nimbus for size, material and layout. Recall the Waterdance was smaller overall than the Nimbus and again had small pockets.

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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    I've never used any of them, but I did have a look and tried on the Fishpond pack. Very good quality as is all their gear. I like the look of that Umpqua one as well though.
    Whichever you choose, please let us have a review.👍

  5. #5
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    Quote Originally Posted by arawa View Post
    I went through the same exercise a few weeks ago and bought the Fishpond Nimbus. Not used it properly yet of course but no regrets and it feels very comfortable.

    Bit of a Patagonia fan normally but did not take to the Stealth because the arrangement of pockets did not suit me. Prefer fewer but larger ones. Also looked at Orvis packs but still preferred the Nimbus for size, material and layout. Recall the Waterdance was smaller overall than the Nimbus and again had small pockets.


    Thanks for the tip! I looked at some images and it looks huge! Can you comfortably wear it without a neck strap? Can you please compare the size to Stealth? Unfortunately there are very few images of the new 10l stealth being worn. Where did you buy it from?

    Sure, whichever I buy, I'll do a review of.


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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    I bought one of these , really well made and plenty of options for waist or shoulder.
    I have 3 different waist bags ready loaded for the different species I fish for , all from China with no fancy brand name and all really good value .Here is a link to my trout waist bag, only $12 dollars


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outdoor-Fish...7OWzdbxSlfRDMQ
    Last edited by bobc; 01-01-2017 at 12:08 PM.

  7. #7
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    I've tried several ways to carry my gear and like you prefer small streams with little depth. My biggest dilemma was i needed something that is above the water when wading the deeper pools but would not obstruct my vision where i am walking. Chest packs do a little, so have settled on a sling pack from Orvis so everything is near to hand when required, comfortable and I can see where I am walking!

  8. #8
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    Quote Originally Posted by unluckypete View Post
    Thanks for the tip! I looked at some images and it looks huge! Can you comfortably wear it without a neck strap? Can you please compare the size to Stealth? Unfortunately there are very few images of the new 10l stealth being worn. Where did you buy it from?

    Sure, whichever I buy, I'll do a review of.


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    I would say it is large - not huge
    It was the largest of the hip packs I looked at but by no means (in my opinion) unwieldy. I wanted to carry a fleece etc rather than heavy weights. I have only worn it with a dummy load around the house without a neck strap but it feels very comfortable.
    I think the ideal pack will be the one that suits your particular purpose; this was the one for me.
    Bought from Uttings.

  9. #9
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    The Wm Joseph Surge is what I use.

    It's beautifully designed - probably the best-designed piece of equipment I use in my fishing. The magnetic closure system is genuinely useful, and totally secure (and waterproof, including tropical storms, btw). Zippers are fumbling and inconvenient after you've used this closure method.

    Quite large, and has good structural integrity, so it stays open and doesn't collapse on you. I don't use the chest mounting, but of course it come with this.

    If you want one, order now, as I think Josephs have stopped making them, which is a shame, as I guess they are caught between the cheaper alternatives and the big marketing budget brands like Simms etc (whose pack it knocks into the proverbial cocked hat, I'd venture to suggest).

    Order one up from Sportfish in the knowledge it can go back if I'm talking nonsense!

    Probably fair to say I'm a fan

  10. #10
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    Default Re: Shopping for a new hip pack

    I also had the same problem as there are so many out there and you need to get them in your hands to try them on making sure they are going to do what you want

    got hold of a fishponds flinthill from the states which seams fine

    Fishpond Flint Hills Fly Fishing Minimalist Lumbar Waist Pack Bag or Sling Sand
    eBay item number: 252636449915


    as the bigger the bag the more you carry and in the end think this is not what you want


    When you think that looks good Simms / fishponds + just stop making them

    But that's marketing for you stay one foot in front of the competition
    Last edited by benisa; 01-01-2017 at 10:37 PM.

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