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    Default One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    I appreciate this is probably a bit of a tall order, but I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a rod in the 8-10 weight category, probably a double hander? I'll probably use it most for Salmon if there are any still on my local river next year. But if it'll double up for pike and sea trout that'd be great. I don't really want a massive long spey rod to be honest. I don't think I really need to spey cast on my local river, it's not that big. But if it's a small (11ft or so) double hander then spey would be possible?

    I don't mind buying something expensive if it'll be a good all rounder, but at the same time I'm equally happy to buy something 'budget'.

    Also I guess I'll need a reel, so advice there is greatfully recieved. But ideally something that I can do a bit of salt fly fishing with if possible. Probably bass or mullet somewhere in South Wales.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    Echo make an awesome rod - the OHS 10'4" 8wt (One Hand Spey) - it has a threaded butt section so you can unscrew the traditional fighting butt and attach a slightly bigger second-hand handle to turn it into a short double-hander. It overhead casts like a dream, though I've yet to try it with a proper double-handed line on it so I can't speak for its light-spey applications. I suspect the best line to match up with this would be the RIO Single Hand Spey in 8wt, but perhaps not for the salt...

    For the salt reels I'd consider either the Lamson Liquid, Liquid Remix or Guru...value-for-money-wise there aren't many better reels on the market that can handle salt and fresh!
    'Maybe your stature as a fly fisherman isn't determined by how big a trout you can catch, but by how small a trout you can catch without being disappointed.' - John Gierach

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    I use a sage xp 10’ 7wt. It’s a good all rounder for spate river, seatrout and rainbows from the boat. A 8wt would have more backbone for playing salmon .Thomas Turner antiques has one for sale for 299 , in appeares unused condition. I’m tempted to buy it myself. I don’t like switch rods , but that’s just me.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    Any 11' switch rod 8wt would be excellent, you could use a Skagit line for pike or a WF10/11 line fore salt, Or a Scandi line for larger rivers.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    Oracle 11ft 7/8 8/9 switch rod is a superb rod the 7/8 is suitable for sea trout, grilse and no doubt pike
    Shakespeare Oracle Switch Fly Rods - John Norris
    Only 70 a bargain!

    As uncas suggested a skagit line is short fat and heavy ideal for quick loading and carrying big flies.

    Al
    Last edited by speytime; 23-09-2019 at 05:37 PM.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    I think that the range of applications you describe would be well served with a 10' #8. The Sage Xp is excellent. I use a Reddington CPS 10' 8wt for all the species you list.

    The Echo described by Streamer Junkie sounds worth investigating. If you are mainly overhead casting anything much over 10' in an 8wt will get tiring fairly quickly.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    IMHO you are trying to buy a Jack of all trades that will genuinely be a “master of none”.
    The hardest of your requirements by far is pike, in my view: casting big, wind-resistant flies really needs a 9ft rod, 8- or 9-weight. This would also be good for bass, but FAR less so for mullet (about 3 line sizes too heavy).
    A 10ft 7-weight would be brilliant for sea trout, OK for most salmon, good for mullet, and OK for bass in estuaries or calm-ish water.
    Personally, I would go for the rod that works best for salmon or sea trout. And then buy a <100 Chinese rod for saltwater: Maxcatch are fine.
    As for saltwater-proof reels, Orvis Battenkill Discs are inexpensive on the auction site: the 10/11 is perfect for bass, salmon and pike. Or System 2 8/9.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    I appreciate that I'm asking for a fairly general rod, but for the bigger fish there seems to be a concentration around #8-10, so I thought if I can get something in the ball park I'd be ok. I get that there will be situations which I want something different or it won't quite be right, but I'm trying to resist having a 15 million rods. I'll probably fail, but why not try....

    I already have a 9ft #6, if that'd be ok for mullet and bass, that'd be ace.

    Realistically, my nearest river is mainly a Salmon river. There are probably some sea trout as well, but it's not a major river. I suspect this'll be a 90% Salmon rod, but I'd like to have something which can do pike/bass/mullet at a pinch.

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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    Check out the Airflo Predator range of rod. Airflo Fishing | Buy Airflo Bluetooth NanTec Saltwater & Predator Fly Fishing Rod - From <b>PS99.99 Have a search on relevant reviews.
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    Default Re: One rod for salmon/sea trout/pike/salt

    sash said it all.

    Beware of thinking that any old 6 will do for salt. It wont . A six is undergunned for bass due to wind and fly size. You also generally need a faster action and saltwater fittings. I have used a wooden reel seat in salt water but don't think I should have!

    Remember that most of the time the spec of the rod is not about the size of the fish, but about delivering the fly.
    Last edited by original cormorant; 23-09-2019 at 11:14 PM.

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