5 Weight shootout by Yellowstone Angler;

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I have just read the 5 weight 32 rod shootout by Yellowstone Anglers which I thought was quit fascinating, very surprised to find the Loomis NRX LP beaten this year by the new rod Douglas Sky G 9x5 in the presentation class, 2nd was the new Loomis NRX+LP.
In the power winner class 1st was the new Loomis NRX + freshwater rod followed by the Scott Radian in second place
But only a couple of points between them, a really good write up on 9x5 wt rods.
Best all-around rod on test was the Douglas Sky G and best line was the S/A Amplitude trout for the presentation rods, and for the power rods the S/A Amplitude MPX.
The loomis rods are designed for use with the S/A lines.
 

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I looked at this when I was designing my own #5 fly rod. I like these shootouts and I'm glad they have dropped the automatic 10 points for any rod made in the USA. However, rather than just looking at their choice, I find it best to pick the things that you feel are most important for you and work out what the best rod is for you. For example, if you are going to use it as a river rod, you could pretty well ignore the 45 and certainly the 70ft casting columns.
 

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I looked at this when I was designing my own #5 fly rod. I like these shootouts and I'm glad they have dropped the automatic 10 points for any rod made in the USA. However, rather than just looking at their choice, I find it best to pick the things that you feel are most important for you and work out what the best rod is for you. For example, if you are going to use it as a river rod, you could pretty well ignore the 45 and certainly the 70ft casting columns.
I think more important is to work out their inherent preferences so you can understand their biases.
looking at the radian 9’ against the g 8’8”... it immediately stands out that George doesn’t like ‘medium action’ rods... he scores the g lower than radian at every distance.. at 25’ he says ”it’s harder to cast off the tip than the radian..”.... bizarre!
strange a ’medium action’ rod that nearly all other reviews say is one of the most accurate and intuitive rods to cast close in is less accurate in Georges hands
thats says more about about his rod preference, type of water he fishes (it’s in the shops name!) and personal preference for a fast action tippy rod and far less about the accuracy of the g at 25’...
they’re a fun read.. but pretty meaningless...
 

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I think more important is to work out their inherent preferences so you can understand their biases.
looking at the radian 9’ against the g 8’8”... it immediately stands out that George doesn’t like ‘medium action’ rods... he scores the g lower than radian at every distance.. ”it’s harder to cast off the tip than the radian..”
strange a ’medium action’ rod that nearly all other reviews say is one of the most accurate and intuitive rods to cast close in is less accurate.
thats says loads about his rod preference, type of water he fishes (it’s in the shops name!) and personal preference for a fast action tippy rod and far less about the accuracy of the g at 25’...
their a fun read.. but pretty meaningless...
Agreed. I also have issues over their swing weight test, which they are very proud of, as it is meaningless in a real world setting. When making my own rod, I can easily reduce the swing weight by a huge amount simply by putting a 2 inch longer handle on!
 

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How did the shakey fair?


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The shakey was way too good a rod to enter that measly shootout.
I bought a Greys XF2 Streamflex 9' #5 after reading the 2013 5 weight shootout, definitely a good buy, I still love using it.
I don't think I'll ever fork out the cost of a G Loomis NRX+LP.
 

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I have both the Scott rods the Radian and the G series 8'8 totally different the G series is a great short range casting rod for dry flies but extending the cast past fifty feet the rod starts to run out of steam,
The radian on other hand will cast shot or long with ease.
I would have thought George Anderson owner of yellowstone anglers who has forty years experience as a guide and rod designer for Loomis Winston and Scott to name but a few should be able to give a unbiased opinion on these rods, I have been reading his comments for many years and find he very informative.
 

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Hi all,

I read these every year and enjoy them. There´s always loads of discussion on our American sister forum about them - a lot of people on there know the rods in detail and also some of the testers. Two things I've realised over the years - the other testers always have the same opinion as George (he's their boss) and they really don't like Sage rods. This year the brand new, highly rated Sage LL came absolute last in the test. This is the same rod that many members of the American forum have been raving over. Cue long discussions on the other side of the pond....

Cheers,

Damian F
 

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I have read them and learnt a lot, though many of the rods they cover are not readily available in the UK without paying a huge premium. However, although George is highly knowledgeable, no one is without bias, whether conscious or unconscious. Also what suits one person doesn't suit everyone. Most of the tests are subjective, hence open to bias. The only way it can be done rigorously would be to do it blinded, ie. remove the makers name from the rods so that the rods are tested without that knowledge. I wonder if the results would be the same?
 

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I have a Home built TFO Lefty Kreh, a 5wt I have had it for 5 years , I wouldn't have any other rod, easker1
 

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I like the Yellowstone tests accepting them as a form of tackle “porn”. But a few years ago, on the strength of their review, I bought a Hardy Zenith and I have certainly not regretted it; lovely and very versatile rod.
Also based on their recommendation (and sincere apologies to all Maxcatch fans), I also splashed out on a SA Amplitude line and nor have I regretted that purchase.
 

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It would have been interesting to see the comparison of the Banana rod from France in the Shootout.
 

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