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easker1

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watched the Scottish womens game against Ireland , a good running game and very physical, Ireland were winning when I got called away but very good rugby, easker1
 

delray

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The women's game has become quite ferocious hasn't it.
I flicked through the recording of France/England and it was quite worrying when they showed close ups of the contact areas, tackle and ruck/maul. Great to watch.

Forgot to mention, France have Sean Edwards running their defence and it told. Why on Earth didn't we grab this modest, quiet, uncomplaining bloke who helped/drove Gatland and Wales to just the 2 or 3 Grand Slams?

We have Simon Amor doing something with our squad....yep, Simon Amor the 7's specialist.
 

mackiia1

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“France can expect absolute brutality from us, we are going to go out there to make sure they understand what Test rugby is”

��️ Eddie Jones

I have a feeling that this was stuck up on the French dressing room door.
 

easker1

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the RFU we scared he would sully the waters with his Rugby league attitude, Didn't Do Ireland any harm, and they sill have Andy Farrel a top league player in his day,
 

boisker

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The women's game has become quite ferocious hasn't it.
I flicked through the recording of France/England and it was quite worrying when they showed close ups of the contact areas, tackle and ruck/maul. Great to watch.

Forgot to mention, France have Sean Edwards running their defence and it told. Why on Earth didn't we grab this modest, quiet, uncomplaining bloke who helped/drove Gatland and Wales to just the 2 or 3 Grand Slams?

We have Simon Amor doing something with our squad....yep, Simon Amor the 7's specialist.
He was wasps coach when Dallaglio was captain... I heard him being interviewed saying “... he may only be a small bloke but at half time if you haven’t played well you try and avoid eye contact, he’s one of the most intense and intimidating men I know...” coming from a big lad that’s quite something.

Did you see the French warm up... Edwards was in the middle of them, looking scary and snarling away... he’d be an amazing addition to the England set up, maybe after Eddie’s gone:whistle:
 

diawl bach

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Not a bad weekend's sport, easy win for Wales, a bit dull, Ireland Scotland was better but without any fireworks.

Best of the bunch was England France, France looked super fit and ran rings round England initially, really good open rugby. Great comeback by England in the second half, France's lead looked fragile for a while, off form compared to the first half, holding back perhaps or simply damaged from some hard hitting tackles, excellent game.

YouTube

Whacked today, should be back on form for Ireland Wales, another early start :eek:hno:
 

delray

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Plea to the English RFU; put a gag on the England 'camp'.

Interesting team selected by England; again not a number 8 in sight, but there can't be as we don't have one. (sorry Nathan Hughs, Sam Simmonds, Alex Dombrandt and T. Harrison, you just ain't good enough). Mind you, at least we have back rowers in the back row.
Going to be blowing a gale and possibly raining in Edinburgh Saturday evening, so we pick passing a back division (no choice really) and only one of the back 3 sound under the high ball.
Replacements are 6 forwards and 2 backs; suggests the expectation of a very physical encounter, but all the games are.

Sorry England but I expect a comfortable Scotland victory but it would be delightful to be made to eat my pessimistic words.

Ireland to edge Wales at home and France to put a big score on Italy if conditions are firm.
 

mrnotherone

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At least Jones has dropped Youngs who has been past his best for quite a while. Still don't understand his thinking with Curry. The front five look better though and regardless of the performance last week, I don't think Scotland have improved enough. If they bring the A game, England should win.

It will be hard for Wales in Dublin, but not impossible. I fancy a sneaky away win. France should thump Italy.
 

sewinbasher

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Things have opened up a bit, before last week I thought:

England
Ireland
Wales
France
Scotland
Italy

No Slam

Wales had no opposition but looked more attacking under Pivac, the "nil" means little as Italy passed on several penalty kicks as they were beyond needing 3 points. Saracens shouldn't worry about losing Tompkins, there will be a raft of players leaving for next season. England were rubbish, not helped by "big mouth" Jones psyching up the French, but they should win their remaining matches. France looked like Sean Edwards has had an immediate impact and may have prevented them blowing another decent lead. Scotland were better than expected but Hogg will have nightmares, might give England a decent form check this week and might win a couple. Ireland were not quite as good as expected but Wales will do well to get past them. Italy need Parise back but have a couple of potentially good runners as well as a typically decent srummage.

My revised forecast with no great confidence:

France
Ireland
England
Wales
Scotland
Italy
 

mrnotherone

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Well that was shocking from Wales. Managed to make a competent Ireland look better than they were. Wales never woke up, out muscled up front, poor kicking, no kick chase, missed tackles (at least 6 from Tompkins!), narrow defence.....all really poor. Even with 15 mins to go and 12 points down no urgency at all. Ireland out thought them and out played them :eek:mg:

I hope England and Scotland serve up something better.
 

anzac

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I only saw the first 10 minutes and the last 12 minutes, and thought Ireland out played the Welsh. Admittedly, I am a wee bit biased.

Certainly, they are much better than they were at the WRC.
 

mrnotherone

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A deserved England win, Scotland too many mistakes again. Perhaps it's easy sitting in the warm, but neither team seemed to adapt to terrible conditions the way I would expect. Some of the kicking was clueless.
 

anzac

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Scotland truly made too many mistakes. It was difficult to decide if England out played them or if Scotland 'outplayed' themselves.

The match to watch will definitely be Ireland V. France.
 

delray

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Just watched the Murrayfield game and enjoying a meal consisting of my own words. Tastes lovely.

40 mph winds and torrential rain, yep loads of mistakes. The only surprise was, it took 68 mins before Ford realised a low chip into space and skidding was difficult to deal with. They just ain't used to it any more it seems.
England had (apart form 4 or 5 kicks on the trot direct into touch, losing 200 yards or so of field position) slightly better control and that along with a very good performance from 6, 7 and 8 to me was the difference. Deserved win.
However, I can't see Genge getting a job as a pundit......and he should never forget, the "sausages" pay his wages.

The Ireland/Wales game seemed without much bite to me. Ireland just had things a little too easy for a Test match but they played well enough to get a deserved win.

Ireland v France the game to watch Anzac? Small matter of England at Twickenham for Ireland and Wales in Cardiff for France before then, but you could yet be right.

England's next 2 games at home i think. Still interesting but we need some big improvements.
 

BobP

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Lots of errors from both sides and two glaring ones from Farrell in the first half when he went for goal into the teeth of a gale instead of kicking for the corner which was an infinitely easier option. No guarantees that we would have scored from either, but as Farrell fairly predictably missed given the conditions I would have thought that having the Scots pinned back and defending after the lineout was a better choice than giving them an easy clearance kick with the wind.

Lowest scoring 1st half England vs Scotland since the early '60's apparently.
 

diawl bach

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I thought Wales-Ireland was a good match, we didn't shine but it wasn't a rout by any means, only one game lost in eight 6 Nation contests, not bad, particularly under a new coach. If Hadleigh Parkes had longer fingers it would have given us a little more hwyl.

Thoroughly enjoyed the game at Murrayfield, a dramatic background what with the accompanying storm, very disappointing for Scotland who can't seem to find their form lately.
 

Gdog

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Yesterdays Ireland performance was their best since beating New Zealand in 2018. Hopefully Ireland under Andy Farrell will not play like they did in 2019, and bore us all to death.

Jordan Larmour's try was something special (if you're an Irish rugby fan) how he managed to beat 5 defenders in that space was amazing. If anyone thinks this was just bad defending, I'll say it's not, having seen him do similar in the blue of Leinster over the last 3 years.

Tricky game away to England in 2 weeks.
 

mrnotherone

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Well Lamour is something special, a quality player with great footwork and it's hard to believe he already has over 20 caps. Yesterday's try was bad defending though - very bad. Lamour only had to make one inside step and then bulldoze his way to the line through four Welsh players. Tompkins attempted tackle in particular was woeful.
 

mrnotherone

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An entertaining game in France, with Italy producing a much better performance than last week which rattled the French for a while. France too strong in the end but they were less composed than against England. We'll see how well this new team can travel when they go to Cardiff in two weeks.

Three games to look forward to in round 3 with the Scots now facing a tricky game in Rome. The other two games could go a long way to deciding this years championship. Ireland in Twickenham should be a cracker. My prediction: three home wins.
 

delray

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I thought Italy were excellent and it took 2 great tries for France against the run of play to see them home. I still can't see Italy winning a game though, so 2 home wins for me....yep i think England will win....and I have a ticket!
 

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