What is it they say a bad workman blames his tools.. Yeah its price its taste its choice its technique possible a small. Amount of ego but that's the sport.. Same in football are my Nike boots any better than your umbeo boots.. Its just t a choice..price may be a limit in all things some can afford expensive rods and cars and stuff some can't buy we all make the most of it.. I'm happy with what I have your entitled to think what you like when you like that's choice.. All on here have made their choicesIt's only choice for some. Price limits choice.
But the analogy with cars is mistaken. There is a diference noticeable to evertne between a Dacia and a, well, any other car. Not so with rods. They all look the same from a social distance and putting aside different actions can all do the same. The price of a rod does not predict its performance. Expensive rods can be poor and cheap rods can be good.
And any rod is good in a good caster's hands.
I was looking at an entry level orvis encounter outfit 200 euro line reel rod case.. Excellent value from a reliable brand..They always say get the best you can afford, so What is priority, rod, reel or line.
I always have good line, always, rods, well known makes but the lower end of that particular makers offerings.
Reels, I did have a reel, that let me down, so I never took it fishing again, well known make as well.
So I invested in the cheapest high quality reels I could actually hold in my hand, before I bought them, now I have three of them. Yes I am fortunate, but its taken time and effort to accumulate these. I really do look after them as well.
I don't buy rods or reels now. Most of my stuff is from orvis.
Nope, I can show objectively that the price of a rod does not predict its performance.Slightly tongue in cheek, I am pretty sure
FYI, all rod blanks are handmade, doesn't mean they're all made equally well or even with the same quality of materials. Everything comes with a price, in mass production even time is money.Nope, I can show objectively that the price of a rod does not predict its performance.
And it's not just the rod either; put the wrong line on a good rod and it'll be a combination that a far cheaper but properly balanced rod and line will outperform. And by far cheaper I mean 15 to twenty times cheaper.
All modern rods over a price point of, say, £50 are very good indeed. The myth that premium priced rods are somehow magically different is a marketing ploy playing off the days of handmade rods when build quality quality was there and obvious.
I suggest you read the 'cost of rods' thread.Can you please name a poor expensive rod and detail in what terms it is 'poor'?
I'm willing to bet that if I took all Sage rods out of the analysis I'd get the same results. If it ever rains again, I'll give it a go.Trouble is your objective results rely heavily on two US shop run comparisons... one of whom (Anderson and his famous shop) seem to have a very strong preference against all Sage rods... they repeatedly mark them well below other ‘premium’ rods makers... not in any objective sense, purely on the basis it doesn’t meet their ‘design requirements’...
i don’t own, and never have owned, a Sage rod... but Andersons whole review fails in any objectivity.
Just as with truly “blind” wine tastings. Or the scandals where very ordinary wine was being labelled as premium, and charged accordingly, without people noticing.But I would love to see some real double blind testing done. Dip every rod in whitewash and give them to 50 qualified casters. I'd bet my house we'd all be surprised.
I have read the 'cost of rods' thread, a time of my life which has no lasting value.I suggest you read the 'cost of rods' thread.
'Poor' means that some expensive rods were objectively out-performed (accuracy at various casting distances) by cheaper ones.
The only statistically valid correlation I've ever found is between price and quality of fittings and then it's not much.
The full answer is there. said many times over.I have read the 'cost of rods' thread, a time of my life which has no lasting value.
Yes I can, but you'll have to wait until I can be ar$ed to go back into the data again. Alternatively, you could, as I say, go find it in the thread If you really cared.'Can you please name a poor expensive rod and detail in what terms it is 'poor'?'