Can you cast a full length of 30 yard WF fly line?

Ability to cast a full 30 yard fly line off the reel. Normal single handed rod and WF fly line

  • Easy, no problem

    Votes: 20 22.2%
  • Occasionally, with a following wind behind me.

    Votes: 14 15.6%
  • Get close, but usually few coils left on the reel

    Votes: 15 16.7%
  • No chance

    Votes: 33 36.7%
  • Never tried

    Votes: 8 8.9%

  • Total voters
    90

Elwyman

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Can't say I've ever managed to achieve casting a full fly line off the reel. Have got close occasionally, but probably a couple of yards short.
Interested to see what general ability level is.
 

steve collyer

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Got close, with the wind behind me.
A lot of fishermen overestimate how far the can cast. 30 yards is a long old way. Plus, most of my fishing these days is with a #5 so 20 yards is decent!
 

Tangled

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I can't quite get there with my softish #5 - just over 80' routinely at the moment - but can with my mate's very fast #7.

But in a lifetime of fishing I've never really tried serious casting. I think I'll get into the 'easy' category this year as I'm taking an interest; it's just technique, timing and practice. "Just".
 

Elwyman

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I can't quite get there with my softish #5 - just over 80' routinely at the moment - but can with my mate's very fast #7.

But in a lifetime of fishing I've never really tried serious casting. I think I'll get into the 'easy' category this year as I'm taking an interest; it's just technique, timing and practice. "Just".
I probably need to improve my double haul technique to achieve a full line. A 90' cast isn't really necessary for my day to day fishing.
 

Tangled

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I probably need to improve my double haul technique to achieve a full line. A 90' cast isn't really necessary for my day to day fishing.
Yeh, you can't do it without getting the double-hauling spot on, but when you do it seems surprisingly casual and easy. If you're trying really hard, you've got it wrong!
 

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Used to do with a Snowbee Prestige 6# and with ease. However, since most lines I use now are 40plus types and I'm nowhere near 90 let alone a full 120. :rolleyes:Makes me wonder if the Snowbee was a full 90. :unsure: I always had line left on reel when fishing a Greys Platinum.
 

Rhithrogena

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Yes.
Often on grass with a single wool fly, or fishing with a stiff saltwater rod and a #9 line. Occasionally trout fishing with a #5 line.
No need for huge distance usually but at the end of a session last night I put my DT4 out as far as I could on my #4 rod, there were a few turns of line on the reel so 25+ yds, and I hooked a fish which took the dry just after it landed. I think this the furthest I have ever hooked a fish on a dry fly.
If you can cast the whole line when needed, shorter casts are easier and accuracy and presentation improves.
Rich
 

Rhithrogena

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Used to do with a Snowbee Prestige 6# and with ease. However, since most lines I use now are 40plus types and I'm nowhere near 90 let alone a full 120. :rolleyes:Makes me wonder if the Snowbee was a full 90. :unsure: I always had line left on reel when fishing a Greys Platinum.
I bought a Barrio GT140 and spooled it and cast on grass with it before twigging what the 140 meant 😳
Having being used to the backing knot going out of the tip ring on grass I was surprised to say the least 😂
 

James9118

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With ease, but then I like to compete in fly casting comps (I currently hold the BFCC #7 record at 146ft). There's only three things you need to cast a fly line far; 1) good tracking, 2 ) high line speed and 3) nice shaped loops. If you get 1) and 2) correct, the 3rd largely takes care of itself however.

I learnt to distance fly cast after coming back from a salt water trip knowing that I wasn't good enough given the severe winds encountered. I still come back thinking I could improve and that's why I practice. My other half can cast a bit too, she has the women's BFCC #7 record at 128ft (she also has most of the other distance records), so again can cast a 90ft line into the backing with ease. I'll also point out that she's physically weak, but has a great technique.

James
 

Cap'n Fishy

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Used to do with a Snowbee Prestige 6# and with ease. However, since most lines I use now are 40plus types and I'm nowhere near 90 let alone a full 120. :rolleyes:Makes me wonder if the Snowbee was a full 90. :unsure: I always had line left on reel when fishing a Greys Platinum.

I compared the length of a Maxcatch floater with an Aircel floater (both WF6). The Maxcatch was 7 yards longer than the Aircel!

I need an option in the poll:

"Used to be able when I was younger, but no chance now I am old and have a knacked casting arm." 😜

Col
 

t44

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Hi James, currently practising hard to get the full line out, 25yds no prob, then it falls apart. Pretty sure it’s my tracking that starts to curve and results in a weird left to right unwinding of the loop. Any tips for getting it straighter? Thanks
 

James9118

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Hi James, currently practising hard to get the full line out, 25yds no prob, then it falls apart. Pretty sure it’s my tracking that starts to curve and results in a weird left to right unwinding of the loop. Any tips for getting it straighter? Thanks
Hi,

It certainly sounds like a tracking issue but they're hard to diagnose without seeing you cast. A good exercise for improving your tracking is to cast at targets - both on the forward cast and delivering on the back cast. Start with short targets and then extend the distance. Look for the line, leader and fly all landing in the exact same line (it's also good to stand at the side of a football pitch and try and land the cast on the painted lines).

Also try 'pantomime' casting holding something like a pen whilst watching yourself in a mirror - look for any movements you make that deviate the pen from the straight line. You could also film yourself casting from the front on position (rather than the side) and watch the path that your rod tip takes if you have a suitable camera.

Hope that helps, good luck.

James
 

PaulD

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A good exercise for improving your tracking is to cast at targets - both on the forward cast and delivering on the back cast. Look for the line, leader and fly all landing in the exact same line (it's also good to stand at the side of a football pitch . . .
This is great advice, 180 degrees is the key element. Standing with your shoulder adjacent to a pitch touch line and 'dropping' your backcast is a key indicator. Additionally, examine your grip, as you extend your casting stroke, by moving your arm futher backwards, there's a natural inclination to open your wrist 'outwards' and thereby moving the rodtip in an inward curve which will, by the nature that the line follows the rod tip, put a curve in the line direction.
 

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I fly fished for 45 years before I learnt to use the DH , A long awaited trip to Cuba meant I had to learn to cast distance , two or three lessons and lots of practice over a year got my casting to the point I could empty the full line , Pleased to say the couple of trips abroad since have been a success , best of all my average river casts have improved no end too.

O M W
 
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