Carp fishing 'naturally'.....

T_James

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Do any members fish for carp using a single fly i.e. no baiting etc? The imitative approach seems to be well established in other parts of the world.

I am originally from a carp fishing background so I am well aware of some of the challenges presented by most carp fisheries (other anglers, vegetation, poor water clarity etc).
 

liphook

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Having spent plenty of time fishing imitation mixers and bread flies in amongst freebies - it's an easy way to open your account with carp and adjust your tackle and techniques to suit - these days I catch the majority of my carp on single dry fly or alternatively a duo of dry and nymph/'buggy thing' suspended below. My own most successful dry patterns are daddy long legs, dung fly, grey wulff, olive wulff, bluebottle, floating snails and ants. PTN, buzzers and bloodworm patterns make up the majority of my nymphs, but wet flies like invicta and black and peacock can also do surprisingly well. All patterns are of a fairly large size incomparison to trout fishing typically 8 to 12 on strong hooks. You might be surprised at how effective the duo is in open water as a searching technique when nothing seems to be stirring - the dry can hold your nymph at your estimation of the carps cruising depth whilst it swings in the breeze/tow. I'm not certain but would bet that the dry is a good attractor but the carp see and take the nymph 1st most often. However it's not to be recommended for anything other than open water. If they are on the surface then it's single dry or slow sinking wets/nymphs. Any snags, lily beds etc and it's single fly only to minimise the risk of hang ups with a fish on. I'll use an indicator/bung instead if I want to drift a subsurface fly but often carp will mouth it! The carp on my local ponds don't grow particularly big with a double being exceptional, but they fight hard so it's a powerful 9fter minimum of #7 and 8lb bs, but more often #8 and 10lb, stepping up to 12lb bs if targeting the snags
 

nav

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I do not use bread flies or other "flies" like that, always imitative pattern (crayfish, tadpole, gamarrus, etc ...)
Caught that 11 kg last week on a tadpole for instance :
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Maruta

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Had a few smaller carp (under 5lb) on a beetle pattern. I'm loath to fish anything sub-surface on my local pond as it's quite heavily stocked, I'd likely foul hook something. I will, however try a daddy-long-legs next time.
 

T_James

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I rejoined a club who's lakes I fish on conventional carp methods a number of years ago. One small lake is fairly well stocked, fairly turbid but has a section of closed canal where the water is shallow and a lot clearer than the main lake. I have fished two half day session and a couple of two hour sessions and have landed two fish up to 13lb or so.

The first was on a slow sinking white fly (a hook with white ep fibres whipped) the second was on a black marabou pattern that I tied with foam on to slow the descent. The two fish I caught were hooked after I cast around 2ft in front of the fish - the difficult part was knowing when to strike as visibility wasn't great!

I am using a 9ft 9wt Helios2 underlined with an 8wt line and a rod's length of .25 Stroft GTM.
 

raphael

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Just made an attempt this evening on the wild ones from the river Loire... Large fish coming in shallow water, which is moreover almost as clear as some trout streams. Used a kind of black marabou leech/tadpole size 2 with 0.30 Teklon tippet, 9'6"Sage One #8 and Danielsson F3W 7-10...
Some fish showed some interest to the fly so I insisted a bit until despite low luminosity I saw a yellowish mouth open where my fly was supposed to be. I lifted the rod and the fish ran, ran, ran. I managed to control the first run, until it stripped all the line, plus several tens of meters of backing and I failed in stopping it properly and line broke due to too much pressure applied when palming on the reel.
Stunning, not as fast as salmon but powerful and strong anyway, and really difficult to get a take. It looks really challenging and I will try again asap. Problem is that they come in this kind of spot mostly at dusk and there is limited time to fish.

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Iberian

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In the lower Mondego river below Coimbra in Portugal I have caught river carp on diawl-bach type nymphs by sight-casting to fish that were feeding in 1-2 feet of water. This is from last week where we had a nice cloudy day which I think helped a lot. The key thing was to have the nymph truly dead drifting, which meant using a yarn indicator. The fish that I have encountered to date are in the 3-6 lb range and are extremely strong and take off like trains when hooked. It is important to point out that the fishing pressure doesn´t seem to be very high in this part of the river and I don´t believe that the carp are targeted that much so they are perhaps not as wise compared to those in more heavily fished places. A nice bonus was to hook up the occasional small mullet IMG_20190806_195514.jpgIMG_20190810_130408.jpg.
 

Iberian

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Thank you for the heads up! In the back of my mind I did think that the fish were a bit slim in their profile compared to the pictures of carp that I have seen.
 

raphael

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One from the Loire tonight. I've used a pink "San Juan worm" and after a careful approach to fish feeding in the shallows in between sunken trees, a place I think even "normal" carp angler would not put a boilie, I dropped the fly 20cm ahead of the targeted fish, with only 80cm line hanging from the tip of the rod....It moved a bit toward the fly and took very smoothly with confidence. Then... I had to jump in the water to untangle the line, to pass the rod below sunken wood and recover at last the 50 or 60m of line that were out. Not a huge fish but a very powerful one like that river can hold (look at the size of the tail fin!).

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dodders

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Lucky to have a few trout reservoirs nearby that happen to havesome carp present . Only fly fishing is allowed so there are no carp anglers putting in loads of boilies etc and therefore the carp only feed on natural foods. If they can be found they do take a fly quite well.
 
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