Dry fly hook strength

codyarrow

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Thinking of tying up some dries that would be used to target bigger fish. Which hooks would you recommend. Read recently there is quite a lot of variance in strength on hooks that on the surface look similar and are of the same gauge.
 

pati

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Ken Sawada terrestrial for regular size/shape, or Ken Sawada Midge for small caddis shape.

These won't open, yet they are made for dries ;-)
 

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Depends what hook shape you're looking for but as someone who enjoys targeting quite large fish on small flies, I'd recommend you looking at the TMC2499SP-BL. The strongest I've found.

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Thanks for the replies. I do have some tiemco hooks, some of them so small I doubt I could tie them on these days. Will have to check what they are. Will have a look at the Ken Sawada hooks. Not to keen on barbless; one of the lochs I want to use these on there was only 5 fish caught all season.
 

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Hends dru fly hooks are my preference and have never let me down. It depends what you are tying though. A good strong wire hook can be supported with a big foam daddy long legs or a thick winged deer or elk sedge. Be careful with Tiemco pattern selection because some of them have a fine wire and so do check.
 

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Be very wary of the Fasna hooks that are the same shape as the Tiemco hooks above. I forget the code number, but I have had quite a few pull out of shape which is not good news when you have a client looking on.
 

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Be very wary of the Fasna hooks that are the same shape as the Tiemco hooks above.

You may be referring to the Fasna F-120. The Tiemco is 2X strong and forged, the Fasna is standard wire. The F-100 is lighter still.
 
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I've got rid of the boxes, but I think you may be right Paul. Trouble is I have quite a few flies in the nymph boxes tied on those hooks. The 16's & 18's don't appear to have the same problems as the 14's. I guess I'll work through them in the end, but it is damned annoying nonetheless.
 

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Ken Sawada, retired some 2+ years ago, & his hooks stopped being made then.
 

pati

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Ken Sawada, retired some 2+ years ago, & his hooks stopped being made then.

That s very bad news! I m glad i heavily stocked up on them just before then and out of pure luck!!!!

Will have to default onto varivas for my dry flies for Iceland then!
 

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If you're after big fish a B175 wont sink an inherently buoyant fly like a sedgehog for example.
In my experience dry fly hooks all open to a degree if you have to give it a bit of welly, for example if a fish is weeded or when you're running out of fly line.
 

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In the UK and for dry flies I'd suggest that because we use a bigger fly it doesn't necessarily mean we catch a bigger fish. With that in mind don't discount small flies in a size 16 using the most ubiquitous Kamasan B100 or B170. Small hooks in my experience tend to hook hold using a higher percentage of the hook - the load is right through the bend. I've found when using the same hooks in 12's and 14's there has been a tendency for the hook to spring open. So when using 12's and 14's I've tended to use a slightly heavier gauge on dries. Counter intuitive and anecdotal I suppose, but with considering.
 

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Pati, don't forget to check out the "Ahrex" range of hooks, which ARE expensive but nothing compares with them for sheer strength & a lot of other factors
 

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