John Tyzack

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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to mention it but here goes anyway, I've just bought a copy of the new John Tyzack/Dean Andrews DVD from www.fishonproductions.co.uk -"Small stream trout fishing", which is the second DVD. I only stumbled across it so thought I'd give a quick headsup in case others are interested and didnt know its now available. I can recommend both DVDs, I'm sure the first one Early Season Trout Fishing was reviewed on the forum and got good reviews, and this one is equally as entertaining, and instructional.

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LG1, thanks for pointing this one out! I've been waiting for it to be released since John mentioned it. I've ordered a copy too, and looking forward to it arriving.

Thanks for the heads up :)
 

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Hi Gareth,
Yes I only stumbled across it by doing a search on John Tyzacks site so was pleasantly surprised to see it was out, and thought it worth mentioning it, I havent seen it advertised anywhere else.
 

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Here's the thread reviewing the first one. Didn't know the second one was out until NeilH said he'd bought it.

I know they are even more pleased with the second one and I will be making a purchase shortly.

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29363&highlight=Early



I thought the first was ok ....a bit wooden especially at the start ( I dont know why John had to have someone else in the river with him ? It was all a bit......." ha ha you missed a take mate " etc etc .

Having said that I would buy the new one.

Ollie Edwards still the best IMHO.
 

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Why two people in the river together?

I thought the first was ok ....a bit wooden especially at the start ( I dont know why John had to have someone else in the river with him ? It was all a bit......." ha ha you missed a take mate " etc etc .

Having said that I would buy the new one.

Ollie Edwards still the best IMHO.
Hi Spider,

Just replying to one point - the 'why two people in the river?' question... :confused:

The whole ethos of these DVDs is that we are attempting to take people's river fly fishing to the next level by looking in a structured way at tackle, entomology, flies and tactics. All river fishers will have some idea of these things, but the 'tutor and pupil' approach is the way we believe most easily gets our points across. I personally find the "one guy in a river fishing and talking" rather dull after only a short while.

Most of us fish with our mates, and fly fishing is fun. :D

We are trying to encapsulate all of the above - instruction - entertainment - enjoyment - fun.

Sorry if it ain't your cup of tea fella! Early Season Trout Fishing has been very well received by most people (so far) and initial feedback from our second offering 'Small Streams Trout Fishing' has been sensational, so we are pleasing some people out there! ;)

Stick with us and try SS? Then come back with your thoughts and comments? We want to make the sort of DVDs that people want to watch, but we are not interested in copying anyone who's done it before, including Mr Edwards...

Cheers,

JT
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Hi Spider,

Just replying to one point - the 'why two people in the river?' question... :confused:

The whole ethos of these DVDs is that we are attempting to take people's river fly fishing to the next level by looking in a structured way at tackle, entomology, flies and tactics. All river fishers will have some idea of these things, but the 'tutor and pupil' approach is the way we believe most easily gets our points across. I personally find the "one guy in a river fishing and talking" rather dull after only a short while.

Most of us fish with our mates, and fly fishing is fun. :D

We are trying to encapsulate all of the above - instruction - entertainment - enjoyment - fun.

Sorry if it ain't your cup of tea fella! Early Season Trout Fishing has been very well received by most people (so far) and initial feedback from our second offering 'Small Streams Trout Fishing' has been sensational, so we are pleasing some people out there! ;)

Stick with us and try SS? Then come back with your thoughts and comments? We want to make the sort of DVDs that people want to watch, but we are not interested in copying anyone who's done it before, including Mr Edwards...

Cheers,

JT
www.fishonproductions.co.uk


You're possibly being a bit sensitive there John.

As I said previously - I would buy the new one. If thats not an endorsement ....?

I personally found the interaction a bit staged and wooden, but if it was particularly bad ( as these can be ) , I wouldnt be making that purchase.

I somehow doubt that I am the only one who rated the series by Oliver Edwards hugely, indeed the media comments on his DVDs are also positive, if perhaps only a snapshot of opinion.

Whether others want to see two mates on a river is something you may be more aware of given your position in the industry and market research etc but personally i'm quite happy seeing one man doing the business and learning in that way. Each to their own.

For what its worth, I think the market would actively purchase a DVD aimed at the intermediate and advanced fly fisher, and in that vein would also commend the Hendsproducts DVD ( for example they introduce french nymphing which i knew nothing about ) that came out in recent times too.

Glad to see you have produced another one, as I was hoping you would.

Rgds
 

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I can see the first edition is filmed on the Wharfe but I couldn't see where it tells you where is the location for the second DVD?
 

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I can see the first edition is filmed on the Wharfe but I couldn't see where it tells you where is the location for the second DVD?
I don't, somehow, think he'll let on, Garry. ;)
 

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Feeling a bit controversial!

I somehow doubt that I am the only one who rated the series by Oliver Edwards hugely, indeed the media comments on his DVDs are also positive, if perhaps only a snapshot of opinion.
You're right- I believe Oliver rated it hugely too:D:D:D

Let's be honest, they're fly tying DVD's with some fishing thrown in to placate any anglers who may have inadvertently thought they were buying some fish porn like me:rolleyes: I cant honestly say there was much in the fishing sections to float my boat and I'd just burst into tears every time I lost a fly that had taken me two months to tie with its three pairs of carefully spaced legs and a hackle made from the third feather of the left wing of the lesser spotted 'you aint gunna find one of them f-----s in a million years' bird:rolleyes:

You want to learn to catch fish - go down the John Tyzack route, you want to needlessly tie hugely impressive artificial flies then Olivers your man but lets not confuse fly tying and fly fishing please.

John's Early Season Trouting DVD was good, his latest Small Streams DVD is fishy porn on a stick:D:D:D


CJ
 

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You're right- I believe Oliver rated it hugely too:D:D:D

Let's be honest, they're fly tying DVD's with some fishing thrown in to placate any anglers who may have inadvertently thought they were buying some fish porn like me:rolleyes: I cant honestly say there was much in the fishing sections to float my boat and I'd just burst into tears every time I lost a fly that had taken me two months to tie with its three pairs of carefully spaced legs and a hackle made from the third feather of the left wing of the lesser spotted 'you aint gunna find one of them f-----s in a million years' bird:rolleyes:

You want to learn to catch fish - go down the John Tyzack route, you want to needlessly tie hugely impressive artificial flies then Olivers your man but lets not confuse fly tying and fly fishing please.

John's Early Season Trouting DVD was good, his latest Small Streams DVD is fishy porn on a stick:D:D:D


CJ


Calder, I think you'll find a lot of fans of the Ollie Edwards series on this forum. Ok the flies are hard to tie, but novel to most of us, and if you cant see decent instruction in his DVD on Spider fishing , Upsteam nymphing, chalkstream fishing etc then you're either blind or an expert who doesnt need them anyway.

Add in a relaxed style, nice rivers, a bit of humour,some brilliant flies ( eg the Tape wing Caddis ) and i think he produced a fine product.
 

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Ollie Edwards Appreciation Society

Calder, I think you'll find a lot of fans of the Ollie Edwards series on this forum. Ok the flies are hard to tie, but novel to most of us, and if you cant see decent instruction in his DVD on Spider fishing , Upsteam nymphing, chalkstream fishing etc then you're either blind or an expert who doesnt need them anyway.

Add in a relaxed style, nice rivers, a bit of humour,some brilliant flies ( eg the Tape wing Caddis ) and i think he produced a fine product.
Spider,

I don't disagree with most of what you have to say, really nice guy- yes, relaxed style- when I'm a hundred I intend to slow down a bit too;),nice rivers-mostly in Yorkshire, so a definate yes;), brilliant (but unneccessarily so?) flies- yes, missed the humour bit completely i'm affraid:( but definately not as instructional in terms of reading the water etc or handy little hints that come out as John guides Dean through a days fishing in the Fish on Productions offerings to date.

Sticking with what I said yesterday- brilliantly produced fly tying DVD's with some token fishing thrown in.

P.S If anyone fancies a days fishing on Ollie's birthday, I think I'm free that day:D:D
 

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Spider,

I don't disagree with most of what you have to say, really nice guy- yes, relaxed style- when I'm a hundred I intend to slow down a bit too;),nice rivers-mostly in Yorkshire, so a definate yes;), brilliant (but unneccessarily so?) flies- yes, missed the humour bit completely i'm affraid:( but definately not as instructional in terms of reading the water etc or handy little hints that come out as John guides Dean through a days fishing in the Fish on Productions offerings to date.

Sticking with what I said yesterday- brilliantly produced fly tying DVD's with some token fishing thrown in.

P.S If anyone fancies a days fishing on Ollie's birthday, I think I'm free that day:D:D

Calder, didnt miss the humour mate, just forgot to reply. I have to say the
flies were bloody hard to tie - i ended up buying stuff i didnt get major benefit from ( I even looked at shaving brushes to get some badger, like a sad git ! ) but i enjoyed the DVDs and picked up stuff on the escalator technique . 3 types of wet fly fishing etc. I'm assuming you've seen them all and arent missing any.

Out of interest, are there other productions under "Fish on " ?

I only have one, so far ( the Spiders one )
 

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DVD - Early Season £24.95

DVD - Small Streams £24.95

Both DVDs = £49.90

A bit expensive for a DVD!

I suppose it's cheap if your one of the 'Wealthier Anglers' I would like to have both DVDs; but I'd feel as though my pocket had been picked, at those prices!

Anyone know where you could buy both DVDs for less than the above prices?
 

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Small Streams DVD

Recieved my copy of John Tyzack/Dean Andrews' latest DVD on fishing small streams last week and just got round to watching it (the Missus kept me busy all weekend......and not in a good way.) Basically a guide to fishing the Duo and dry fly in small streams, including some basic entomology, some fly tying and a discussion on tackle.

Not wanting to stir up the previous debate in this thread, but I quite like the format of "teacher" and "pupil", discussing various points and then putting them straight into practise. The results speak for themselves, with a lot of fish caught. If you like watching "fishing porn" then some of this DVD will definately float your boat. However, I think there's a bit more to it than that, as it definately educational. After watching the DVD, I'd feel reasonably confident to go out and have a go at the techniques myself on such small streams.

I've got both DVD's and I was a bit disappointed that the first didn;t explain the deadly Duo/trio method in detail. However, there's loads of great tips on fishing spiders and you get the pattern for John's JT Olive dry. The second does cover the Duo and there's a fair bit of "rivercraft" and reading the water described during the conversations between Dean and John. The entomology in both DVD's is quite basic, but to be honest, it's still a step up from my level of knowledge and therefore very useful. Both DVD's seem well produced and nicely packaged.

As for the price....well, at £24.95 it's not cheap. But how many of us are prepared to spend more than that for a days fishing? (Bolton Abbey and Monsal Dale both now £40, and god knows what a day on a southern chalk stream costs). When compared to that I reckon it's ok value for money.

On the whole, a very positive :D from me.
 

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I've had my copy of the new FishOn DVD, Small Stream Trout Fishing, for a week now, and I've already watched it a few times.

The majority of my trout fishing takes place on small streams, I love it, and choose to fish them more than the main stem of the river during trout season. When I first heard that the FishOn guys were releasing this title, I was instantly looking forward it's release.

I must say, firstly, that this DVD is fantastic and portrays the small stream fisher's style of fishing perfectly. The methods used in the DVD are, pretty much, all I use throughout the season, and are hugely productive.

Spot on advice, spot on tactics, and spot on advice for flies and leader make-up (and there are a good few tips that I picked up from the DVD which I'd never ever thought of using..knees pads for one! JT, you're a life saver mate! :D ).

I was hooked (excuse the pun) on the first FishOn DVD, and so was hugely excited when I heard that the second DVD would be Small Stream Trout Fishing...I can't wait for number three already. Top job guys!

If you fancy fishing small streams (and why wouldn't you!?) and don't know where to start, get this DVD, you won't look back. If your life completely and utterly revolves around fishing small streams, get this DVD, you'll love it!

G
 
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