How about Kamasan B160
"The Kamasan B160 is, bronze, heavy wire, forged 3x short shank. They have a wide gape and are suitable as buzzer, spider & nymph fly hooks."
Available down to a 16 definitely smaller than B175 16
Thanks SM, not too sure what F1s are but still useful info. Don’t coarse fish have much softer mouth tissue than trout making hook failures somehow less likely? It s a genuine question, I know the brutish power of carps!
How are the B911 in terms of weight against same size b175, how about x strong b911?