Oh! so it's an indulgence now, I thought a forum was for an exchange of Ideas, otherwise what's the point of them, If you feel I was being indulgent then I will bow out now, I don't mind rational discussions, I don't expect the OP to drop what he is looking for , if we forget that there are other methods then we lose the History of angling, you can say in the future I saw this guy whose methods were really so bad they were crappy, I, on the other hand, make a point of always being out of step, I don't like the Idea that I should always conform, it hasn't made my life easy but it has made it interesting, enjoy your Pringles , I never eat them and I like my cast holders not neccessarily
the beer mats, but the Masterline ones, Ideal for my 3 fly casts, easker1
My reckoning is that it's down to the difference between when an OP is asking a straight question, looking for a straight answer, and when the OP is asking an open question, inviting 'blue sky' type 'brainstorming' answers. When it's the latter, then we can all let our minds roam free. When it's the former, answer if you can and if not, then don't answer a different question.