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On the eighth day, he created an extra one for his most benign followers in America, god decided an extreme right-wing journalist would be the right (!) person to warn the world for all the evil works of the devil and to produce the necessary supplements and pills to free his people from mental slavery. He got so excited about the numerous possibilities, especially the economic ones, he victoriously slapped his hand on the grand table of creation and unwillingly flattened the earth. In order to conceal his mistake he instructed these men, who really trust in him, to tell all non-believers it was his true intent and anyone dismissing it was denying his existence. The whole world embraced these new prophets of the alternative truth and since then there has only been peace and unconditional compliance on the only flat planet in the universe, provided everyone keeps taking their pills, wears the appropriate T-shirts and continues reading the words of wisdom these geniuses produce.
Undoubtedly they will tell you Wikipedia is wicked, but as the devil's advocate, I can't help myself, either.
 

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I have seen some reviews of that movie - it's supposed to be poor and outdated regarding its facts.

I'm pro-Green but don't pretend everyone in the Green movement is perfect by any means. There's a lot about XR's antics that I have been uneasy about and I'm surprised at how naive some in the movement are. For example, they are expecting a brave new world post Covid as everyone will have realised how great it is with reduced pollution, etc. Who are they kidding, it will be business as usual promoted by the usual suspects.

Overall though, I believe if we don't embrace Green thinking more we are well and truly stuffed.
 

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I am not a great green Supporter there are other ways to save the earth with out the vertical components in the Landscape, and Willie Renny supports Scottish Independence, that I can't take, there are other ways to be Green, easker1
 

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Not one of you watched the movie which is linked and free to watch! That is utterly amazing! All this as you shelter in place fearing for your lives! Here and probably there the actual death rate is 0.1 % of the population. The death count is for the most part confined to the nursing home near dead population that are on their way out to begin with. Perhaps those who say of people like those i find here... "don't even try to bring them back. It is too late. They are too far gone." Homie, you are a gem; have you gone completely mental? Then..... perhaps you can't help yourself.
 
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I’d already watched the film Kype.... a lot of the content would be a fair commentary.
like any film it takes it to the slight extreme, but at it’s heart the message is depressing and a good conveyor of the sh!t storm on the horizon.
the film isn’t anti-green movement.. it is very green... ultra green... the core problem it raises is the mega business of renewable energy and how green is it...
 

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I’d already watched the film Kype.... a lot of the content would be a fair commentary.
like any film it takes it to the slight extreme, but at it’s heart the message is depressing and a good conveyor of the sh!t storm on the horizon.
the film isn’t anti-green movement.. it is very green... ultra green... the core problem it raises is the mega business of renewable energy and how green is it...
Glad you watched the movie. You might find it interesting that I agree with you. I hadn't seen it until last night and thought people might like to see it. The Nature Conservancy traded a flock of grouse for drilling oil back in the 1990's. The IRS had to place a large number of accountants in the actual TNC building to review corruption in their tax reporting. I knew back then the environmental movement had become something else. Now it has become a serious threat and most people are asleep kind of like Homie.
 

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Glad you watched the movie. You might find it interesting that I agree with you. I hadn't seen it until last night and thought people might like to see it. The Nature Conservancy traded a flock of grouse for drilling oil back in the 1990's. The IRS had to place a large number of accountants in the actual TNC building to review corruption in their tax reporting. I knew back then the environmental movement had become something else. Now it has become a serious threat and most people are asleep kind of like Homie.
That’s not quite the point I was making :)
for me personally... renewables is one aspect of the environmental movement, the problem isn‘t environmentalism it’s big business and the type of person that can bring...
renewables still have a place... there’s a whole load of reduced infrastructure when on a smaller/rural/geographically isolated scale... and I have to say I don’t know the figures well enough... even allowing for the additional ‘natural’ expense of making electric vehicles (for instance) they may very well still be far better than combustion engines... but that still doesn’t make them great.
thats the most useful point of the film for me... it isn’t that people are being hoodwinked and renewables aren’t better than ’oil’ (it didn’t actually say that) but rather it was that neither gives us the longterm answer... the only longterm answer is to reduce energy consumption however it’s been produced...
at work we have committed to reduce our carbon footprint by 50% by 2025 and carbon neutral by 2030... thats a huge challenge, we do a lot of mileage, have offices just like any organisation... it seems a hugely ambitious goal, but it’s the type of goal at some point everyone is going to have to work towards...
 

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I did not see the same conclusion. To me it is clear, it is something the globalists have been saying for a long time" HUMAN POPULATION REDUCTION! The covid-19 collapse of the world’s economy is exactly what the plan is. Did you see the video from the UN on death by starvation of people in Africa etc. do to the shutdown of our economy?



One wonderful individual here actually said to me; since when did anyone care about the lives of the poor of the world. That is a summary of his words. The UN wants a 90% human population reduction and they are going to get it to "save the planet!" It is BS. Is there a overpopulation one may rightfully ask me? I think so but reduction through barbarity I want nothing to do with. Once again, the left has demonstrated exactly what the left is FASCIST. Mussolini was a Socialist, Hitler a Socialist, Stalin a Communist, the CCP all of them on the left. It is always madness from the left and now we are here again. It is always about the collective not the individual, always about leveling society while the elite run the show. It is always about control domination and abuse of children and the most vulnerable among us. In perhaps as little as 6 months the streets of America will be running with blood if we do not break free and the world’s population will be on its knees begging for crumbs from the New World Order globalists who engineered this entire take over.
 

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I'm just wondering Kype, are you a fan of Micheal Moore's other work? for example that the US government faked 911?
 

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Sry can’t quite follow the above....
is it you saying ”One wonderful individual here actually said to me; since when did anyone care about the lives of the poor of the world. That is a summary of his words. The UN wants a 90% human population reduction and they are going to get it to "save the planet!" It is BS. Is there a overpopulation one may rightfully ask me? I think so but reduction through barbarity I want nothing to do with. Once again, the left has demonstrated exactly what the left is FASCIST. Mussolini was a Socialist, Hitler a Socialist, Stalin a Communist, the CCP all of them on the left. It is always madness from the left and now we are here again. It is always about the collective not the individual, always about leveling society while the elite run the show. It is always about control domination and abuse of children and the most vulnerable among us. In perhaps as little as 6 months the streets of America will be running with blood if we do not break free and the world’s population will be on its knees begging for crumbs from the New World Order globalists who engineered this entire take over.”
or are you quoting someone else?
 

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I'm just wondering Kype, are you a fan of Micheal Moore's other work? for example that the US government faked 911?
I have never been a fan of his. That being said there are disturbing things about 911. I never did see his movie on 911 to comment. It is undeniable that the neocons used 911 to start a campaign to destabilize the middle east. That madness continued through the Obama administration as well just look at the senseless destruction of Libya and these same individuals are still creeping around.
Do you recall this? Perhaps I should watch Michael's movie on 911! I see if I can get it on YouTube.
 
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One wonderful individual here actually said to me; since when did anyone care about the lives of the poor of the world. That is a summary of his words.

That is the only piece regarding forum member.

Bobby
 

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I can take the odd conspiracy theory but when they start overlapping into new world orders and stuff it gets hard to sort fact from fiction, when it becomes evangelistic it starts to sound like those day tome tv programmes on aliens, it should also be remembered that viewing things from another country can offer a more objective perspective.
 

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I can never make out if this is a wind up or not?

If not take care Kype and try not to see conspiracies everywhere. The only known is that human beings are not that clever at controlling things. No one knows what is coming next. Looking after yourself and trying not to be insular is about as good as you can do.
 

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"The only known is that human beings are not that clever at controlling things."

Correct and that is why their plans are coming apart and they are now more dangerous than ever.
Watch and see for yourself the fall of conspirators who attempted a coup d'etat here in the USA.



Here is more of the actions of the NWO for no good reason a peaceful Yugoslavia was destroyed.

Here is another ugly nasty globalist! https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/19/flashback_2011_hillary_clinton_laughs_about_killing_moammar_gaddafi_we_came_we_saw_he_died.html
 

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I can take the odd conspiracy theory but when they start overlapping into new world orders and stuff it gets hard to sort fact from fiction, when it becomes evangelistic it starts to sound like those day tome tv programmes on aliens, it should also be remembered that viewing things from another country can offer a more objective perspective.
So here is a fresh view from a foreign country ohanzee! At least the Italians are awakening.

 

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So here is a fresh view from a foreign country ohanzee! At least the Italians are awakening.

Correction, one (1) Italian, kicked out of her own party (Five Star Movement) and only backed by the dubious anti-vax group Corvelva, an Italian parents association. On their website you'll find their coordinates and bank account number to donate for their "serious" research. They also guarantee your money will be used 100% for the good cause. Their "studies" on existing vaccines were never published in any of the official medical papers and never peer-reviewed. Donate now to help these deluded people, they know what they're talking about. Just like Sara Cunial.:rolleyes:
 
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