Moral dilemma with COVID

ohanzee

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He is also a share holder in the company in India that makes the wonder cure he wants the USA to buy, strange that !!!
And on further investigation..oh what a surprise..not.


''President Donald Trump has a "small personal financial interest" in a drugmaker that produces hydroxychloroquine.

(a tiny investment but read on)

Trump repeated his endorsement of these medications during a Sunday evening press briefing, stating that the US now has a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills
Others within Trump's circle also have ties to Sanofi, according to The Times.

One of Sanofi's largest shareholders is Fisher Asset Management, a fund set up by major Republican donor Ken Fisher.

A fund previously run by commerce secretary Wilbur Ross also invests in Sanofi, according to the report, though Ross said in a statement that he was "not aware" of the company's involvement with Sanofi, nor was he personally involved "in the decision to explore [hydroxychloroquine] as a treatment."

And according to ProPublica, employees who were formerly compensated or employed by Sanofi went on to work at several federal agencies, including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Justice, and the Office of Management and Budget.''
 

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Hello Kype can you tell me what makes Trump so popular in America, I know he isn't stupid per-se but he acts like a complete *****, always talking sh1te and definitely not a statesman like Obama, Bush etc so what's he done to be so popular in the USA?

Cheers Al
OK! He doesn't give a rat's about acting like the Bull -itters you have mentioned. He doesn't look down on the average working man. His entire campaign was and is about Americans regular hard working men and women. We have been sold out, cheated, our sons and daughters shipped off to fight useless wars for what? Trump is ending the deals that have stolen our blood and money. He is engaging in meaningful peace deals, bringing home our men and women and restoring sanity to the insane world of the left.
Meanwhile the Democrat Party holds anyone who is not in full agreement with them in complete contempt "deplorable" she called us and given a chance we would be in CC camps. Most do not realize what fascism is or that it has always been on the Left. The left is dead they just don't know it yet and one of your own told the world exactly why we have Trump right here.
 

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And on further investigation..oh what a surprise..not.


''President Donald Trump has a "small personal financial interest" in a drugmaker that produces hydroxychloroquine.

(a tiny investment but read on)

Trump repeated his endorsement of these medications during a Sunday evening press briefing, stating that the US now has a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills
Others within Trump's circle also have ties to Sanofi, according to The Times.

One of Sanofi's largest shareholders is Fisher Asset Management, a fund set up by major Republican donor Ken Fisher.

A fund previously run by commerce secretary Wilbur Ross also invests in Sanofi, according to the report, though Ross said in a statement that he was "not aware" of the company's involvement with Sanofi, nor was he personally involved "in the decision to explore [hydroxychloroquine] as a treatment."

And according to ProPublica, employees who were formerly compensated or employed by Sanofi went on to work at several federal agencies, including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Justice, and the Office of Management and Budget.''
So what? Trump has a personal interest in the well being of his people and this country also.
 

ohanzee

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So what? Trump has a personal interest in the well being of his people and this country also.
As a medical professional you should be able to understand the ethics of a president encouraging people to take drugs that have not been tested for a given illness.

Doing it to make money for friends with shares in it is beyond belief.
 

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Earlier in this discussion tossed out 5G with no explanation what so ever. My bad? Here is an article that may have points of interest as we attempt to understand what this is all about.
PEEP stands for Positive End Expiatory Pressure. PEEP is a component of ever ventilation modality there are a number of them. Volume Control, Pressure Control, Pressure Support, Pressure Regulated Volume Control (PRVC Servo I Ventilator) Simonized Intermitment Mandatory Ventilation in bot Volume ventilation and Pressure ventilation, also PRVC Volume Support. I work with Servio I Ventilators and other companies haver their own varing modes of ventilation. PEEP is a component of all of these modes. Crazy stuff!
Does that apply to the 'Murican 5G Trump wants us to buy, or is the China 5G more dangerous?
 

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And on further investigation..oh what a surprise..not.


''President Donald Trump has a "small personal financial interest" in a drugmaker that produces hydroxychloroquine.

(a tiny investment but read on)

Trump repeated his endorsement of these medications during a Sunday evening press briefing, stating that the US now has a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills
Others within Trump's circle also have ties to Sanofi, according to The Times.

One of Sanofi's largest shareholders is Fisher Asset Management, a fund set up by major Republican donor Ken Fisher.

A fund previously run by commerce secretary Wilbur Ross also invests in Sanofi, according to the report, though Ross said in a statement that he was "not aware" of the company's involvement with Sanofi, nor was he personally involved "in the decision to explore [hydroxychloroquine] as a treatment."

And according to ProPublica, employees who were formerly compensated or employed by Sanofi went on to work at several federal agencies, including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Justice, and the Office of Management and Budget.''
There have been 2 recent clinical trials on hydroxychlorquine against covid. Both of them failed. Trump hasn't said much about that!
 

ed_t

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🤣 He's the president of the USA and a successful business man before that, generally speaking a stupid person wouldn't have the level of success he's had, it doesn't make sense?
The success of his business ventures is contested. It is said that if he'd banked the money he inherited... the humongous fortune he inherited... and just rode the interest rate he would now be far richer.
 

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. Most do not realize what fascism is or that it has always been on the Left.

If that is so why did the Nazis ie the Facists fight the communists ? Of course Americans get their history from Hollywood
The nazis fight the communist over riverly between them who controls/leeds the working class.
 

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The nazis fight the communist over riverly between them who controls/leeds the working class.
Exactly, it was about power and control. With the left it is always about control of every aspect of human life. That brings us to, you can walk along a stream but you can't fish it for the common good.
 

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I did read that Trump puts on ave 20 dollars per week into the average Americans pocket.
That something no tory would ever do.

Al
Putin and Erdogan do similar- buy the vote, bilk the system.
 

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The only 5G retranslator in the country over here is located less than 2 km from office. I am not using this provider so still 3g and 4g.
Many of us do not want it. It is being pushed on us and Trump is promoting it as it appears to be necessary from a military and business standpoint or we will fall behind. That doewsn't make it good it is likely to be a world wide health issue and may already be playing a part with covid-19.
 
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