River Lugg

micka

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Does anyone know whether within the range of powers available v-a-v this 'work', there is the ability to make an order for the farmer to restore the habitat (as there is in general planning legislation, for instance)?
I think he should pay for it but I wouldn't let him anywhere near it again.

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The EA are in a bit of a corner now. Looking for someone to blame, when they themselves were in on the act.
That's carefully drafted by the PC, especially the final para, which clearly distances itself from Mr Price, I'd suggest (my bold):

The parish council supports work to improve the Lugg that is undertaken at the direction and instigation of the Environment Agency and is in line with the appropriate guidelines, regulations and processes that may be applicable.

The EA has attended multiple meetings. You just know that they have explained, in detail, the procedure for obtaining approval. Brer Farmer's taken it upon himself to crack on. Furore rightly erupts.
 

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Does anyone know whether within the range of powers available v-a-v this 'work', there is the ability to make an order for the farmer to restore the habitat (as there is in general planning legislation, for instance)?
Yes, NE / EA can enforce restoration, but i know of a number of grassland SSSI’s that have been ploughed up and drained where no/little enforcement action was taken... It’s not possible to restore what was there, but he should be made to carry out works as far as possible.
I think they should bring in specialist contractors and get him to pay for it, but that is very unlikely
 

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The EA are in a bit of a corner now. Looking for someone to blame, when they themselves were in on the act.

that’s not what that statement says...
looking for the landowner to do work identified work and licensed work are 2 different things..
could be local EA officer didn’t make that apparent enough, could be the landowner took on identified work without finalising details/process first...
as I said in an earlier post... it’s a SSSI with an SAC downstream, NE have to licence works before any activity can take place
 

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From what I have read it appears the farmer had vested interests and a possible grudge from a significant planning application being refused, which would have made him a lot of money one imagines. He then appears to engage in wanton environmental destruction which has made national headlines.

This obviously has to go through the appropriate legal process but one hopes an example will be set. This sort of thing just can't be allowed to happen. The state of the environment and biodiversity int he UK is parlous enough as it is, No 189 out of 218 :(
 

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You might be right, and we will find out over time. But a partially blocked bridge, house flooding (?) and EA inaction suggest to me the EA will just want this incident to be forgotten.

I’m not disagreeing that the local EA officer isnt feeling the pressure... he’s probably been checking his paperwork and correspondence :) but that balls in NE’s court really...
houses on flood plains.... flood... tis in the name, doesn’t mean SSSI’s can be wrecked
 

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You might be right, and we will find out over time. But a partially blocked bridge, house flooding (?) and EA inaction suggest to me the EA will just want this incident to be forgotten.
Indeed. I also noted there is a community council meeting scheduled for 12th, in which the agenada states they are going to discuss the works!
Would love to be there, given said communities backing of said works prior to outcry, and indeed the references to EA given them the two fingers!
Bert
 

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I’m not disagreeing that the local EA officer isnt feeling the pressure... he’s probably been checking his paperwork and correspondence :) but that balls in NE’s court really...
houses on flood plains.... flood... tis in the name, doesn’t mean SSSI’s can be wrecked
Depends how old the houses are, surely? If they were there before the SSSI, and depend on a clear bridge to stop getting flooded, I think the SSSI designation will be forgotten.
 

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Depends how old the houses are, surely? If they were there before the SSSI, and depend on a clear bridge to stop getting flooded, I think the SSSI designation will be forgotten.
Doesn’t work like that
and no one is saying work can’t be done under any circumstance... the crux of the question is whether NE had granted a Consent to Works licence before works happened
none of which affects the ‘blocked’ bridge argument, even in a SSSI you can remove flood debris/trees from a bridge structure, you don’t need permission for that...
he either had permission and the correct licences or he didn’t, the fact that there are no press statements / articles quoting the licence numbers would tend to the assumption he didn’t have them... time will tell.
either way... the river is still trashed...
 

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There has been a similar incident recently on the Coln. It was funded by the Farming and Wildlife Advisory Group and even put up a few signs telling everybody it was all OK and for the benefit of the river and its wildlife...
It's been reported to the EA who have gone very quiet on the matter...

FYI the bank in question was previously populated by a wide variety of mature growth but non of which was impacting on the river channel.
 

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If the EA cannot (finance) or will not and the work needs carrying out.........then crack on Farmer Jones
 

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There has been a similar incident recently on the Coln. It was funded by the Farming and Wildlife Advisory Group and even put up a few signs telling everybody it was all OK and for the benefit of the river and its wildlife...
It's been reported to the EA who have gone very quiet on the matter...

FYI the bank in question was previously populated by a wide variety of mature growth but non of which was impacting on the river channel.
Once beavers move in, the bank will all look like that, with the added bonus of bank collapses and erosion from burrowing.
 

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If the EA cannot (finance) or will not and the work needs carrying out.........then crack on Farmer Jones

good point... let’s get rid of all controls on the environment and let landowners trash whatever they want
 

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good point... let’s get rid of all controls on the environment and let landowners trash whatever they want
Damn right - and we could get rid of pesky Planning Regulations too. That way Farmer D could get his riverside development too. Tidy - like the riverbank.

He should be carried shoulder-high through the streets of Leominster like the modern-day Robin Hood (with a digger) he so surely is
 
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