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How can I tell the weight I have been given my mate gave me a rod with no name or weight size how can I find out what it is all help appreciated thanks for looking
 

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Measure it - length and weight. Tell us what you get. (If it's 9', odds are that it's a #5, just because that's the most popular rod. 9'6", probably #7).

Assume you don't have lots of lines to test with?
 

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Measure it - length and weight. Tell us what you get. (If it's 9', odds are that it's a #5, just because that's the most popular rod. 9'6", probably #7).

Assume you don't have lots of lines to test with?
Surely you need to clamp it horizontally and hang a bag of pennies off the end?
(p.s. it's actually really hard to weigh a fishing rod, unless you know how to make a cardboard rod-rest for the kitchen scales)😉
 

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Surely you need to clamp it horizontally and hang a bag of pennies off the end?
Sadly that would only tell you what the rod actually is, not what the manufacturer would like you to believe it is.
(p.s. it's actually really hard to weigh a fishing rod, unless you know how to make a cardboard rod-rest for the kitchen scales)😉
Nah, just tape the four sections together and put the bundle on the kitchen scales.
 

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Sadly that would only tell you what the rod actually is, not what the manufacturer would like you to believe it is.

Nah, just tape the four sections together and put the bundle on the kitchen scales.
Not on my scales - need to do this
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90g: not bad for a 9wt 😉
 

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Presumably, with nothing written on the butt - its length and / or recommended line - it's a home made rod. Did your mate use it? What line did he use?

There is no definitive method to establish the 'correct' line to use with it because, as with all rods, they will 'work' with a range of lines and much will depend upon your own casting ability. I'd suggest you try it with a 6wt line and 'see how it feels'. If it feels OK then . . . it's OK. That's how complicated it is. (y)
 

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it not a home made rod the name and marks have come of its got to be twenty years old I remember him buying it from Darlaston tackle in the midlands but that’s all I now about it.thanks again
ps it’s a two piece rod I will measure it see how long it is later on today
 

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Also, what is the handle? A Full Wells usually means it's a #7+. Could be #6 but less likely. Half Wells or cigar it's likely to be #6-.

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Presumably, with nothing written on the butt - its length and / or recommended line - it's a home made rod. Did your mate use it? What line did he use?

There is no definitive method to establish the 'correct' line to use with it because, as with all rods, they will 'work' with a range of lines and much will depend upon your own casting ability. I'd suggest you try it with a 6wt line and 'see how it feels'. If it feels OK then . . . it's OK. That's how complicated it is. (y)
Over complicating things never helps.. 😜😜👍
 

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Sadly that would only tell you what the rod actually is, not what the manufacturer would like you to believe it is.
That is exactly the point. You find out what line you can use on it and not what the manufacturer tells you to believe, or anyone else for that matter.
 

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That is exactly the point. You find out what line you can use on it and not what the manufacturer tells you to believe, or anyone else for that matter.
I was being ironical. I really shouldn't bother.

As you know I'm a fan of the CCS. So if our man wishes to try to measure it, this is how.

 

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I was being ironical. I really shouldn't bother.

As you know I'm a fan of the CCS. So if our man wishes to try to measure it, this is how.

No, you shouldn't really. It only adds to the confusion.
 

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Also, what is the handle? A Full Wells usually means it's a #7+. Could be #6 but less likely. Half Wells or cigar it's likely to be #6-.

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I'm sorry, this isn't correct at all. Rod handles have changed more or less with fashion over the years. For instance, I've a 90s Hardy Sovereign 9' #7/8 with a half wells handle, a 2007 Sage 9' 6" #6 with half wells, an 8' 6" split cane #5 with a full wells, and a 9' split cane #6 with a reverse half wells.

So you are about as likely to be able to tell the # weight of a rod by the shape of its handle as by weighing it on the kitchen scales! Both are about as reliable as a 'barbecue summer' long range weather forecast!

To estimate the # weight of a fly rod without specialist kit then you'd need to carry out the 'bag of cents/pennies test' mentioned in post #3.
 
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You're stuffed full of really useful advice, I'm so grateful. Oops, damn, there I go again...
You can't feel the difference between a #5 and a #6 on a rod (your own words) and you're being ironic on a thread about defining rod/line weight. Yes, there you go again. The OP received good advice on how to proceed. Your irony only spawned a confusing statement that had nothing to do with the question, but only reinforced your own bias. As usual.
 
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I'm sorry, this isn't correct at all. Rod handles have changed more or less with fashion over the years. For instance, I've a 90s Hardy Sovereign 9' #7/8 with a half wells handle, a 2007 Sage 9' 6" #6 with half wells, an 8' 6" split cane #5 with a full wells, and a 9' split cane #6 with a reverse half wells.
Yes I know it's not a hard-and-fast rule - the word used was 'likely' - but It's generally the case that a #5 will be half wells and a #7 will be full wells. #6 is more ambiguous. We have to start somewhere.
To estimate the # weight of a fly rod without specialist kit then you'd need to carry out the 'bag of cents/pennies test' mentioned in post #3.
Yes, yes, we all know. I pointed out how in post #13.
 

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How can I tell the weight I have been given my mate gave me a rod with no name or weight size how can I find out what it is all help appreciated thanks for looking

What weight fly lines do you own? Are you able to borrow others to try with it? The most important thing is to use it with the line that feels right for you. If you try it with a 5-weight and it doesn't feel like it is loaded enough, try it with a 6-weight. If you try it with a 7-weight and it feels like it is overloading it, then again try it with a 6-weight. I have a 5-weight rod that I prefer to use with 6-weight lines.

Find the line that feels right for you...

Col
 

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How can I tell the weight I have been given my mate gave me a rod with no name or weight size how can I find out what it is all help appreciated thanks for looking

Firstly I'd forget weighing it, the handle might just narrow it down, but ultimately you will have to do what Col suggests above.
 
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