Seat box or vest... Or both

PaulD

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To me, one of the greatest and most important features of fly fishing, whether still water or streams, is mobility. When you're in a boat, the boat takes care of the mobility and as you may, during the day, fish various areas, methods and depths, a box to hold a range of lines, a plethora of flies, lunch and a whole host of other stuff you'll probably not use in a month of Sundays is not a bad idea.

Personally, I could not imagine visiting a trout fishery, picking a 'swim' and parking my bum there all day. Fish swim and I like to catch them, not wait for one to happen by perchance. Conditions change, the wind changes, you see swallows working over a section of the water . . . you need to be observant, you need to move, you need to be able to react to change.

A day on a bank of a small still water needs no more tackle and 'accessories' than can be carried in a vest.
 

original cormorant

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How about a folding Flip-stick?

Yeah, cheap (mine cost 50p at a car boot fair about 15 years ago) but it lacks the fold down disk of the traditional shooting stick which means it sinks into the mud when you sit on it. Consequence of this is that the rubber ferule on the end stays in the mud and needs to be replaced. Put a bolt thro it to prevent that happening again, but it still sinks into the mud.
 

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Yeah, cheap (mine cost 50p at a car boot fair about 15 years ago) but it lacks the fold down disk of the traditional shooting stick which means it sinks into the mud when you sit on it. Consequence of this is that the rubber ferule on the end stays in the mud and needs to be replaced. Put a bolt thro it to prevent that happening again, but it still sinks into the mud.
I carry one, as I cannot walk very far in one go, I did write to the manufacturer about
a load spreading disc and they said they had no customer complaints as the stick was.
I still use it as it is very comfortable to sit on.
I do have an aluminium seated shooting stick that I carry on field trips.
 

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I carry one, as I cannot walk very far in one go, I did write to the manufacturer about
a load spreading disc and they said they had no customer complaints as the stick was.
I still use it as it is very comfortable to sit on.
I do have an aluminium seated shooting stick that I carry on field trips.
Not much annoys me more than manufacturers saying they don't have complaints (or suggestions to improve) their products.
Even worse tho is when they change products for the worse and claim that some spurious consumer focus group who don't actually use the product, liked the change.

I find I'm very negative about most things at the moment - is it me or the world.
 

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Not much annoys me more than manufacturers saying they don't have complaints (or suggestions to improve) their products.
Even worse tho is when they change products for the worse and claim that some spurious consumer focus group who don't actually use the product, liked the change.

I find I'm very negative about most things at the moment - is it me or the world.

It's Covid. It changes peoples behaviour and mentality. :rolleyes: Just follow the rules and guidance, then ignore them.
 

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Yes indeed. I enjoy a lounge whilst a butler brings me a drink in between casts. Nothing wrong with a bit luxury.

But on topic; I am starting off on stillwaters to learn to cast etc before heading out to rivers next year (Wansbeck near me is closed now from what I gather). I only have a cheap 10' rod at the minute as well so my rod tip reaches the other side of most banks here anyway so I'd need a smaller rod first. And waders. And boots. Etc etc. Working my way up to that.

I would certainly not want to be trailing a big pack around for river fishing. But while experimenting and learning the ropes at stillwaters it would be good to have a box with everything in it and easily accessible without having to pre-pack for every time I go out.

I'm going for a vest first and then as I build up more kit, I quite like the idea of that Stanley box above. That looks mint. Easy to ferry around as well.
A few on here are now going for cheap rods look at the Matchcatch thread and the Shakespeare agility thread my latest purchase was a Maxcatch Extreme 9' 5 wt £17. 65 delivered a beautiful rod to use on our 77 acre reservoir.
 

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I now only bank and river fish, the amount of gear I need for both is near identical, and carried in pockets. The only change is brought about by length of trip/session, do I need extra food or clothing, but as has already been highlighted, it’s absolutely detrimental not to be on the move, so even when I take more, it fits in a 30l rucksack.
 

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For general stillwaters, my bag/seat combination serves me well. I use the seat as a level surface when tackling up, for food or drink containers, rather like a small table. Useful to prop the rod up when sorting out the leader end. Also, I often have two rods set up and it keeps the other, safely off the ground, either upright or horizontal. The seat can be easily be detached if not required. Oh yes, as my legs tire more easily these days, I can get a sit down when needed.
On the boats, those big tackle boxes, popular with the reservoir anglers are not for me, I just load an extra tackle bag if I require a wider or specialist range of gear.
For active/ roaming fishing, a bag may prove to be a hinderence to progress
 

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For general stillwaters, my bag/seat combination serves me well. I use the seat as a level surface when tackling up, for food or drink containers, rather like a small table. Useful to prop the rod up when sorting out the leader end. Also, I often have two rods set up and it keeps the other, safely off the ground, either upright or horizontal. The seat can be easily be detached if not required. Oh yes, as my legs tire more easily these days, I can get a sit down when needed.
On the boats, those big tackle boxes, popular with the reservoir anglers are not for me, I just load an extra tackle bag if I require a wider or specialist range of gear.
For active/ roaming fishing, a bag may prove to be a hinderence to progress
Think that's spot on the conclusion I've come to.
My back is quite done in so standing for longer periods (6hrs is a long time to stand with no discs in your lower spine) gets a bit uncomfortable.

Loading up a vest makes for better mobility but reduces the time I can stand, due to the extra weight on my spine.
So a middle ground would just be to load the vest with just what I need; tippet, snips, forceps, sinkant/floatant, and a good selection of flies. Then anything else can just go in a bag. I have seen other anglers drop to their knees. That's a good idea actually. I:ll try that next time.
 

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I have a old cammo jacket that takes all my gear for an afternoons fishing , I use a rucsac if I go way all day for my kettle and stove, I like a coffee now and again, one rod 2 fly boxes , some mono leader, snips and forceps, thats it , any thing else would be clutter, easker1
 

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Gees, l had better not mention that l sometimes like to put Pepsi in my Balvenie DoubleWood


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Haha! I have done that! Exactly that whisky.
I ran out of Jack. So the cheapest single malt copped it
 
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Crikey the beck’s I fish have no level areas big enough to place a seat - you have to keep moving and ten miles in a session is common over very overgrown rough terrain. The extra weight would kill you.
 

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I've learned the art of squatting on one leg. When the lower back starts to ache, I just kneel down, sitting on the back of my boot essentially.
Doesn't seem to affect casting either. If anything it served me well in the wind.

The vest I got off Rob Frame is spot on and has already proven its worth. Having the forceps right there, and being able to change flies without stopping and getting the backpack out is so much easier. Also having Gink dangling from my vest, easy to reach.
 

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Patrick pick his brains as much as you can , he and Jim Tuck took Lee Cartmail under their wings and Lee is now England Bank Captain.
 

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Normaly I can carry everything in a small bag and wastecoat if I am bank fishing.
I use this converted Stanley Box when I am boat fishing or fishing off the bank at Farmoor as it doubles up as a seat to perch on and have some lunch.
Holds all my tackle, food, flasks and waterproofs, plus two home made rod holders on the back to carry a couple of rods.
When not fishing it serves well to keep everything in one place and then decant as necessary if I want to travel light. Works a treat. 🙂👍
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Lovely bit of kit, there is nothing wrong with being comfortable while fishing, you can fish for longer, concentrate better and if you pack a camping stove, you can cook some food up.
 
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