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Will that be a H. L. Leonard taper, is that a very fast taper and what type of fishing is it going to be used for.
What line does Luke recommend for this rod, It sounds like a DT5 to me.
A flamed cane with dark N/S guides would look nice and a blunt nose cigar grip.
 

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Will that be a H. L. Leonard taper, is that a very fast taper and what type of fishing is it going to be used for.
What line does Luke recommend for this rod, It sounds like a DT5 to me.
A flamed cane with dark N/S guides would look nice and a blunt nose cigar grip.


Uncas,

Yes, I believe it's quite a fast taper, I've not asked about lines etc yet that can wait a while. As to what is going to be used for, small rivers/streams fishing under tree tunnels and not casting too far. It will be a while yet and I'm in no rush, to be honest. But I do prefer the look of a cigar grip as opposed to a full or half wells.
 

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I think Luke is known for his fast or very fast bamboo proprietary tapers? These sound perfect for your chosen application.
I believe (though could be corrected by those in the real know) that the flaming has to be done up front when a full culm, so probably just well that you're going for a blond rod.
Although the cigar grips are very pretty, I've always favoured the half wells shaped grips (not reversed). These grips also give something for your thumb to push against (though some cast with the index finger outstretched for accuracy).
 

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This may be of interest to some? I was browsing youtube last night and came across this.


John was in Chasing The Taper and comes across well in this as he did in the aforementioned film. Don't get me wrong I'll never be a collector, rods are to be fished IMO. But I enjoy listening to people talk about the history of fishing tackle, be it rods, reels and one of my favourites lures, I do like a Heddon.
 

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Perhaps we could have a sub forum discussing split cane fly rods and float rods and the merits of them.? Admin:)
Good morning all I've read and re read the thread and enjoyed your knowledge love and enthusiasm for split cane and glass rods.. Now having spoken to most of you over the last year or so I'd ask where would someone who has a small budget look at buying a glass rod just to see how it feels.. I'd imagine ebay possibly but have no idea about decent blanks and so on.. If I could afford some of the names mentioned I would but this is going to be my first step towards a glass rod.. Any help will as always be greatly appreciated.
Gary.
 

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Hi GEK79
Great to see you interested in bamboo and glass.
There are a couple of resources that may help you. There's a Glass forum here: https://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/ which may have second hand new and vintage glass rods which may be good to get you into the game.
There were also some posts in this forum by members such as the swing weight post, whereby a cheap Bloke blank was built up. This may be a good option.
Vintage glass be able able to be had cheaply, but probably not representative of what modern glass is likely to be , as there have been lots of technological improvements in the past decade as the glass revival got going.
What got me back into glass was a member on here Taniwha who was/is a glass nut, and eventually started his own tackle business here: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TaniwhaRodworks and he may be able to help you source some reasonable blanks or finished rods.
He's also got a page on Facebook.

Good luck!
Cheers,
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Hi GEK79
Great to see you interested in bamboo and glass.
There are a couple of resources that may help you. There's a Glass forum here: https://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/ which may have second hand new and vintage glass rods which may be good to get you into the game.
There were also some posts in this forum by members such as the swing weight post, whereby a cheap Bloke blank was built up. This may be a good option.
Vintage glass be able able to be had cheaply, but probably not representative of what modern glass is likely to be , as there have been lots of technological improvements in the past decade as the glass revival got going.
What got me back into glass was a member on here Taniwha who was/is a glass nut, and eventually started his own tackle business here: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/Taniwh...R8jKG1wPHSFQaAnGhEALw_wcB&section_id=16380542 and he may be able to help you source some reasonable blanks or finished rods.
He's also got a page on Facebook.

Good luck!
Cheers,
Steve
Thanks Steve ill have a look and will see what's available.. And hope to join the glass club soon.. And maybe one day enjoy the split cane.. As always thanks for your help.
Gary
 

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Thanks Steve ill have a look and will see what's available.. And hope to join the glass club soon.. And maybe one day enjoy the split cane.. As always thanks for your help.
Gary
No worries Gary.
I just had a peek on Mark's (Taniwha's) etsy site and he listed an s-glass 8' #5 for £189 which sounds really reasonable. I'd drop him a line, he's a great bloke.
Cheers,
Steve

PS he also sells blanks, and building accessories if you're handy with that sort of thing!
 
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No worries Gary.
I just had a peek on Mark's (Taniwha's) etsy site and he listed an s-glass 8' #5 for £189 which sounds really reasonable. I'd drop him a line, he's a great bloke.
Cheers,
Steve

PS he also sells blanks, and building accessories if you're handy with that sort of thing!
I dropped him a message and will await a reply as for handy it's one thing I'm not.. Would glass be used on rivers as well as loughs.?
 

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I dropped him a message and will await a reply as for handy it's one thing I'm not.. Would glass be used on rivers as well as loughs.?
Fantastic, I'm sure he will be a great help, whatever your budget. I did a quick tally and all the bits could be had for around £140 so a bit of handy work could save you a few pounds. I did some home builds many, many years ago, and although they weren't pretty they worked, and I guess that's all that matters, especially if you want to see if you like it. Lots of resources these days on youtube etc, which they didn't have when I was a youth trying to do it!
Glass is perfect for short cast river fishing, I would think that for loughs especially on boats it would be great as you wouldn't have to cast far and glass almost casts itself (you don't need to get the rod to load with a lot of line out like graphite). I have found that the glass I had didn't like wind however, others like the Epic glass may be different.
You couldn't have a long glass lough rod though, as glass is often heavier, and maybe a handful at the longer lengths typical of lough rods (>10').
In general glass is not a long distance caster, so if bank fishing it would have to be in the margins, which is no bad thing.
 
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Good morning all I've read and re read the thread and enjoyed your knowledge love and enthusiasm for split cane and glass rods.. Now having spoken to most of you over the last year or so I'd ask where would someone who has a small budget look at buying a glass rod just to see how it feels.. I'd imagine ebay possibly but have no idea about decent blanks and so on.. If I could afford some of the names mentioned I would but this is going to be my first step towards a glass rod.. Any help will as always be greatly appreciated.
Gary.
Try to find a used Lamiglas if you're looking at getting in to glass rods. The one I have I would put on par or better than any glass or carbon rods I've tried.
As I understand, Lami blanks have gone up in price recently, but are still looked at as some of the best bargains in glass rods.
 

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Gary,

This is not high end.

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It's a 7' 8" 4WT, I got it from Alli Express for around £50.00 a year or so ago. Something like this may be worth a punt, to see if you like the action etc. If you don't you have not spunked away too much money.
 

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Gary,

This is not high end.

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It's a 7' 8" 4WT, I got it from Alli Express for around £50.00 a year or so ago. Something like this may be worth a punt, to see if you like the action etc. If you don't you have not spunked away too much money.
Interested in your opinion of said rod, compared to a mid range rod, even those offshored to Asia as well, such as Vision, Guideline, Loop, etc
 

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Well this has tickled my interest...
Everyone knows you don't need to spend hundreds or even thousands to catch fish, but how good is the cheap stuff? ie less than £100.
Some quick googling revealed some brands with chinese made stuff, eg MaxCatch and other unknown brands from China on ebay for around £70.
I found a YouTube channel called Twig & Timber Fishing and Outdoors which specialised in affordable gear and they had a review on MaxCatch which he rated highly.
For sure any rod will catch fish, but how good (usability, durability, performance) are these cheap rods? Anyone have long term experience with them?
 
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Interested in your opinion of said rod, compared to a mid range rod, even those offshored to Asia as well, such as Vision, Guideline, Loop, etc


Steve,

I've not handled any of the rods you mentioned, but for a cheap rod, it's fishes fine. All joints are tight and don't come loose when casting. Reel seat locks down fine and for the price, I can't fault it. Yes, we all like tarty high-end gear, but for Gary as a starter with glass, it may give him an idea. It's a little long for me, creeping about under trees, but it's no great issue when I crash it about at the price.
 

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Steve,

I've not handled any of the rods you mentioned, but for a cheap rod, it's fishes fine. All joints are tight and don't come loose when casting. Reel seat locks down fine and for the price, I can't fault it. Yes, we all like tarty high-end gear, but for Gary as a starter with glass, it may give him an idea. It's a little long for me, creeping about under trees, but it's no great issue when I crash it about at the price.
I'm having a look at several suggestions here lads. If I make the plunge into glass I'll let you know..
 

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Good morning all I've read and re read the thread and enjoyed your knowledge love and enthusiasm for split cane and glass rods.. Now having spoken to most of you over the last year or so I'd ask where would someone who has a small budget look at buying a glass rod just to see how it feels.. I'd imagine ebay possibly but have no idea about decent blanks and so on.. If I could afford some of the names mentioned I would but this is going to be my first step towards a glass rod.. Any help will as always be greatly appreciated.
Gary.
Patrick Trotter is a local rodmaker, not a million miles from you in Maguiresbridge Co. Fermanagh. I bought a couple of glass blanks from him and made 'em up - lovely wee rods. He also does fully finished rods on same blanks, not an arm and a leg either. He's on FB as Colebrooke Custom Rods or if you PM me I'll give you his mobile
 

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I'm having a look at several suggestions here lads. If I make the plunge into glass I'll let you know..
I built up one of the bloke xlsg blanks last year Gary, the 8' #5 3 piece and I really like it. I sourced all the parts separately but I see Mick is doing the full kit for £85 on eBay which is a bargain (less than I paid!). I can't compare it against any other glass rods and am not an expert by any means, I just wanted a cheap entry in glass rods to see if I liked them.... and I do😁.
 
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