Streamer fishing for wild brown trout.?

Mrtrout

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I’m just interested in people’s thoughts on fishing streamers in rivers which are predominantly wild trout rivers, do you condone it or frown upon it?
i arrived at a beat on the Eden last week and came across two anglers who had driven up from London and bought day tickets, so far so good.
upon having a chat with one who had his dog with him I politely pointed out that club rules don’t allow any anglers to take a dog with them, he accepted it fine and apologised.
i looked at his attire and he was wearing a base ball cap covered in everything from mouse patterns to pike lures, it was like a moving Christmas tree.
I asked if they had any luck, and he told me they’d had a few to about 1.5 lbs.
On the nymph I said, as nothing was rising, no streamers he replied.
Then he told me the week before his mate had a 6lb fish and he had one of 5.10lbs on streamers, that’s all we fish he replied.
Nice enough young fellas but I couldn’t help feeling this method was not on.
Ive never fished a streamer in my life, other than for rainbows or pike so I can’t comment on the success of this method other than it had proved very fortunate in their case.
Am I just an old fuddy duddy that hasn’t moved with the times or is this now an acceptable method on unstocked wild trout waters?
what’s your feelings on this, would you do it to secure a fish or stick with more “conventional” methods.
Slightly bewildered.
S.
 

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Hi Steven,
A Muddler Minnow streamer is a Sculpin imitation ( a Bullhead). Trout in rivers eat a lot of Bullheads. Surely fishing an imitation of one is fine?
This is always going to be a grey area and it's one of those things that the individual needs to work out for themselves.
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I meant to add that streamer fishing can be very skilful and a lot of fun, trying to get the 'fly' to behave like an actively swimming prey item uses different techniques to insect-imitating patterns. It's not just a question of standing in the same spot roly-polying a cat's whisker.
Big wild trout get big by eating a lot of things other than flies.
I sense something about these guys caused you distress, it's understandable to be protective of your fishing and want to see the quality preserved, but if guests aren't breaking fishery rules it's hard to se what you can do.
 

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HI Steven

More and more people seem to be fishing them....I fish the same waters as you do and of the number of people I speak to on a weekly basis regarding how has the fishing been etc. more and more tell me they didn't have any luck on dries or nymphs so they pulled streamers and caught decent fish.
I confess I have some in a fly box but have yet to fish with them....even when I've blanked I haven't been able to tie one on and give it a go.

I confess I'm a traditionalist but feel I'm been left behind slightly as more and more respected anglers and guides now sell the benefits of them on their respective websites.

Maybe Youtube is partially to blame, many of the US anglers fish nothing but streamers....

Regards, Chris
 

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I meant to add that streamer fishing can be very skilful and a lot of fun, trying to get the 'fly' to behave like an actively swimming prey item uses different techniques to insect-imitating patterns. It's not just a question of standing in the same spot roly-polying a cat's whisker.
Big wild trout get big by eating a lot of things other than flies.
I sense something about these guys caused you distress, it's understandable to be protective of your fishing and want to see the quality preserved, but if guests aren't breaking fishery rules it's hard to se what you can do.
Not really distress Rich more surprise I think, we have no rules in our club banning the use of streamers but our rule book was written way back when down and across and north country spiders was popular.
Ive no intention of altering the rules, it’s obviously more common practice these days perhaps I ought to give it a go?
S.
 

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In the US it's common place. When I was there I joined in, and it was fun. I'd do it here, I guess, but you really don't need to. In the US some of their trout species are piscivorous (like Bonneville Cutthroat trout) or quite prone to it. Quite often a streamer would work when nothing else did.
 

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Streamer fishing for wild brownies has nothing to do with ressies lure pulling.
It is a fascinating and very skilfull technique that can be immensely rewarding but also quite frustrating
 

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Try something subtle, like a small longshank Muddler (the original brown and turkey wing job) and try to get it to swim like a fish. It's fun, and can be very effective. I once tried multiple flies to try and tempt a decent brown in a dark pool on the Barle (just upstream of the bridge in Simonsbath if any of you know it). Eventually plopped a white Dog Nobbler in just upstream of it and the bugger grabbed it before it hit the bottom. Only just over a pound, but big for the Barle. I hope he grew on to 2lbs....
I have always kept an open mind after that.
 

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Streamer fishing for wild brownies has nothing to do with ressies lure pulling.
It is a fascinating and very skilfull technique that can be immensely rewarding but also quite frustrating
it is lure fishing and is no more or less skilfull than Lure fishing on a reservoir.

Maybe calling it ‘streamer’ fishing makes some anglers feel better about it.

A white ‘Dog Nobbler’ is a good imitation of a freshwater lamprey.....I once caught some trout absolutely stuffed with lampreys on a Dog Nobbler but did not call it ‘Streamer’ fishing:ROFLMAO:














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I’m just interested in people’s thoughts on fishing streamers in rivers which are predominantly wild trout rivers, do you condone it or frown upon it?
i arrived at a beat on the Eden last week and came across two anglers who had driven up from London and bought day tickets, so far so good.
upon having a chat with one who had his dog with him I politely pointed out that club rules don’t allow any anglers to take a dog with them, he accepted it fine and apologised.
i looked at his attire and he was wearing a base ball cap covered in everything from mouse patterns to pike lures, it was like a moving Christmas tree.
I asked if they had any luck, and he told me they’d had a few to about 1.5 lbs.
On the nymph I said, as nothing was rising, no streamers he replied.
Then he told me the week before his mate had a 6lb fish and he had one of 5.10lbs on streamers, that’s all we fish he replied.
Nice enough young fellas but I couldn’t help feeling this method was not on.
Ive never fished a streamer in my life, other than for rainbows or pike so I can’t comment on the success of this method other than it had proved very fortunate in their case.
Am I just an old fuddy duddy that hasn’t moved with the times or is this now an acceptable method on unstocked wild trout waters?
what’s your feelings on this, would you do it to secure a fish or stick with more “conventional” methods.
Slightly bewildered.
S.
Steven, I met the same guy on Saturday Evening, I was a bit surprised to see the dog. We had a brief chat, I asked him if there was any fly life moving but he responded that he was streamer fishing so didn't know. I have no issue with the fact that they were streamer fishing because I think it is a skill. I have only done it on stillwaters with poppers and have no experience of using them on rivers. It's just another fishing method. If it is the only way they fish then I think they are missing out. He was dressed for Bass fishing !!

Cam
 

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I have to admit to feeling a bit uncomfortable about this. In the last few years I’ve seen some very big browns on our stretch of the Wharfe and it’s no coincidence that we also have a big population of signal crayfish. I guess these big fish are predominantly cray and fish eaters and there is no doubt they are less likely to be tempted by a tiny imitation than by a streamer or similar. One in particular taunts me on a regular basis and I’ve chucked nymphs, spiders and dries at it to no avail; I’m tempted.

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Steven, I met the same guy on Saturday Evening, I was a bit surprised to see the dog. We had a brief chat, I asked him if there was any fly life moving but he responded that he was streamer fishing so didn't know. I have no issue with the fact that they were streamer fishing because I think it is a skill. I have only done it on stillwaters with poppers and have no experience of using them on rivers. It's just another fishing method. If it is the only way they fish then I think they are missing out. He was dressed for Bass fishing !!

Cam
That was them Cam, he knows not to bring the dog in future, but as they’d driven up from London the last two weeks I told him to carry on.
They reminded me of trout bums from a New Zealand or Patagonian film. 😃
Perhaps I need to open my outlook a little?
S.
 

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To justify streamer fishing, anglers (as above) say it is a very skilful form of angling.

Over the years I have heard the same said about Spinning and Worm fishing!

Personally, it is not for me, but every angler to their own.



Douglas
 
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"Am I just an old fuddy duddy"

Probably. You didnt like his attire either. Ultimately, they were not like you and that made you feel uncomfortable.
 

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To justify streamer fishing, anglers (as above) say it is a very skilful form of angling.

Over the years I have heard the same about Spinning and Worm fish!

Personally, it is not for me, but every angler to their own.



Douglas
I wouldn't say it is particularly skilful.

Cast. Strip. Strip. Strip. Strike!

No drag to worry about.

You can cast a streamer anywhere in a river, strip it whichever way you want. Nowhere is really out of bounds.

It is fun though, and the takes feel savage.
 
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Every dog has his day (sorry couldn't resist).

I think it's just down to individual preference, it's an interesting technique to use alongside the other methods and if nothings rising or they're not taking nymphs/wets then probably worth a shot. They were funny chaps but not unpleasant when I met them and if it works for them then good luck to them. I'd like to have an afternoons streamer fishing with you Steven, you never know... 6 and 5.8lb each would be fun :p
 
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