Tackle shops re opening

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We can't compete with China when UK companies are ripping off other UK companies.
When I had a local tackle shop, the owner's wife ran her own company, mainly making luggage. She also made some luggage for fishing and made a bespoke rod holdall for me and a cool bag to keep any trout in that I knocked (I still have it and use it after 20 years, the lining has gone though). Anyway, they developed a bit of tackle that another company was interested in. So they sent a sample to them (the sample cost money to produce) free of charge. This second company then sent the sample to China for production. Completely bypassing the first. Lesson learned, don't send free samples, get copyright etc on anything you do. China is everywhere.
Who remembers when everything was "Made In Taiwan"?
 

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I don't think it matters how many Chinese lines we personally import, this century belongs to China. The next generation is going to have to come to terms with that.

The very best thing we can do is to trade with them whilst berating their human rights abuses. Trade is a long-term civilising force. Stephen Pinker's book is a wonderful explanation of it.

 

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Yes it is extremely difficult to avoid Chinese made goods or parts thereof, however it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
I do my very best to avoid anything from China, my very best sometimes isn’t good enough, but trying keeps me happy.

I certainly don’t feel the need to lie about it like Bob.
If you can be bothered you will see upthread that I said I had bought nothing signifcant from Maxcatch. I do not consider a few feet of tapered mono significant. Apart from anything else it was not a lie. I had simply forgotten that I had indeed bought some Maxcatch leaders via Amazon a couple of years go. You, or course, being the perfect person you consider yourself to be, never forget anything - or so you would have us believe.

Beware, I shall peruse every post you make from now on and the tiniest little slip will be brought to the attention of all on here. Two can play at that game.

Best chuck out your Chinese-made mobile phone, and as for your laptop laden with Chinese parts! Possession of those items simply labels you as a hypocrite.
 

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I don't think it matters how many Chinese lines we personally import, this century belongs to China. The next generation is going to have to come to terms with that.

The very best thing we can do is to trade with them whilst berating their human rights abuses. Trade is a long-term civilising force. Stephen Pinker's book is a wonderful explanation of it.


Must be wonderful to appear to be so comfortable and sanguine about leaving the next generation to come to terms with what we have effectively left them. It's all very well trotting out Stephen Pinkers's tome which refers to the reduction in violence, I wonder whether the average Uyghur Muslim living in china would agree with you or Pinker for that matter>
 

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If you can be bothered you will see upthread that I said I had bought nothing signifcant from Maxcatch. I do not consider a few feet of tapered mono significant. Apart from anything else it was not a lie. I had simply forgotten that I had indeed bought some Maxcatch leaders via Amazon a couple of years go. You, or course, being the perfect person you consider yourself to be, never forget anything - or so you would have us believe.

Beware, I shall peruse every post you make from now on and the tiniest little slip will be brought to the attention of all on here. Two can play at that game.

Best chuck out your Chinese-made mobile phone, and as for your laptop laden with Chinese parts! Possession of those items simply labels you as a hypocrite.
You are not reading my posts properly, unsurprisingly.
Where did I claim that I had absolutely no Chinese goods?
Incidentally I don’t own a lap top, or desk top.
But that’s an aside.
I NEVER claimed to have avoided all Chinese goods, quite the opposite, I have no hypocrisy to fear, unlike yourself who told everyone to avoid Maxcatch gear whilst buying it yourself.

I hope you enjoy scrutinising my posts.
One thing is for certain, you won’t find any lies, as I am not a liar, unlike yourself.
 

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Thus speaks the person who considers himself to be totally perfect and honest. Load of sh*te! Never, ever, made a mistake or forgot anything. Biggest load of bullsh*t ever written on here.
 

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It seems that its ok to buy or pay the Chinese state as thats unavoidable, but we shouldn't buy from those suffering under the states rule :unsure:

oh, and it ok to buy Chinese goods from British shops.

indecently I make my own leaders even though maxcatch leaders are 10 for less than a fiver, delivered 🤪
 

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Thus speaks the person who considers himself to be totally perfect and honest. Load of sh*te! Never, ever, made a mistake or forgot anything. Biggest load of bullsh*t ever written on here.
You said you never bought Maxcatch goods - Bullshit

You said that I said I had no Chinese goods - Bullshit

You then call ME dishonest!!!

Am I missing something here?
 

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Must be wonderful to appear to be so comfortable and sanguine about leaving the next generation to come to terms with what we have effectively left them.
Each generation has to deal with the reality of the world they find themselves in. Reality doesn't give a stuff how sanguine we are about it. And, of course, it's also not true that we are sanguine, it's just a fact that there is a limited amount that we can do to change it. Attempting to ban trade would almost certainly make things worse.
It's all very well trotting out Stephen Pinkers's tome which refers to the reduction in violence, I wonder whether the average Uyghur Muslim living in china would agree with you or Pinker for that matter>
A reduction in violence is an important measure of an increase in civilisation. This is why we are able to say that the state incarceration, genocides, torture and human rights abuses that happen are not civilised. And, of course none of it is in any way condoning present atrocities.
 

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When I started this thread I actually thought it might get a lot of views and no replies. This is not how I thought it would go. There is a debate about the future of tackle shops and what we can do to help, I'm sure most of us benefitted from the advice you get in them that you cannot get from an online purchase.
It's not worth giving yourself a coronary problem about it though!
 

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Loop Tackle seem to be trying a new approach to selling tackle. I may be wrong, but I get the impression they don't sell their gear in traditional tackle shops, it's all online through their web site?
From a marketing point of view, they seem to give free kit to well know anglers who praise the kit in blogs and on Twitter etc. Make me smirk when they say how their new Loop wading jacket kept them warm and dry today.
 

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Loop Tackle seem to be trying a new approach to selling tackle. I may be wrong, but I get the impression they don't sell their gear in traditional tackle shops, it's all online through their web site?
They sell direct to end user only now. Canned all distribution a year ago. It's an interesting move, they figure that their brand is now strong enough to cut out both wholesale and retail why holding 100% of the retail price to themselves.
From a marketing point of view, they seem to give free kit to well know anglers who praise the kit in blogs and on Twitter etc. Make me smirk when they say how their new Loop wading jacket kept them warm and dry today.
All the major brands do that. They call the people they dress ambassadors. Several brands also sell gear at half price to GAIA members. It's all good cheap marketing.
 

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Loop Tackle seem to be trying a new approach to selling tackle. I may be wrong, but I get the impression they don't sell their gear in traditional tackle shops, it's all online through their web site?
From a marketing point of view, they seem to give free kit to well know anglers who praise the kit in blogs and on Twitter etc. Make me smirk when they say how their new Loop wading jacket kept them warm and dry today.
I think it's out of necessity, Loop (like Hardy and Loomis) has a minimum order policy that is unattainable to small and medium tackle shops that aren't specialised in fly fishing gear. What's left are a couple of shops with exclusivity contracts for large areas. That doesn't boost sales, hence the direct approach which automatically sets a lowest selling price for smaller distributors to adhere to. In a shrinking market I suppose it's the only solution to several problems.
 

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Being fortunate enough to live within a short drive of Rutland Water, I will be really happy to have a browse through their excellent tackle shop. 10% season ticket discount helps. I haven't been to Eyebrook for a while, but I do believe they still have a tackle shop. But the Holy Grail will be when I do get down to London and a visit to Farlows. I just love tackle shops.
 

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Being fortunate enough to live within a short drive of Rutland Water, I will be really happy to have a browse through their excellent tackle shop. 10% season ticket discount helps. I haven't been to Eyebrook for a while, but I do believe they still have a tackle shop. But the Holy Grail will be when I do get down to London and a visit to Farlows. I just love tackle shops.

I don't go anywhere near there but buy a lot from Eyebrook, another shop thats took a lot of money off me is is the Borders Gunroom and its been money well spent,.
 
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