The Classics to date

maharg

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The Classics/Essentials to date

Ben set the ball rolling with this, and very kindly allowed me to join in.
Here is a list to date of patterns covered to save any duplication. Feel free to join in or add to an existing thread.

Benlikestofish:

https://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/the-classics-diawl-bach.32898/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-cruncher.33627/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-dabbler.34338/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-connemara-black.32543/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-claret-golden-olive-bumble.35485/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-wulffs.56226/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-buzzer-wet.59704/

Maharg;
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-zulu.54592/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-black-pennell.53197/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-alexandra.56916/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/modern-classics-shipmans-buzzer.54679/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-peter-ross.54671/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-ace-spades.56956/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-viva.56992/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-cats-whisker.56976/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-teal-silver-blue.58366/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-kate-mclaren.58568/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-march-brown.58856/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-red-tag.58919/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-bibio.60208/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-dunkeld.60819/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-pheasant-tail-nymph.69983/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-klinkhamer-special.97823#post796835/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-muddler-minnow.108504/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-woolly-8ugger.111028/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-damsel-nymph.111892/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-daddy.193419#post1094889/

Savage Take;
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-sweenytodd.57105/


Midlander
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-greenwells-glory.61073/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-soldier-palmer.62199/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-grouse-green.100678/

Steve Collyer

http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-montana-nymph.58459/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-invicta.58491/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-coves-pheasant-tail-nymph.58685#post626506/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/modern-classics-bristol-hopper-2.58738/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-appetiser.58769#post627537/

North Country Angler
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-waterhen-bloa.59219#post633317/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/north-country-spiders-woodcock-hares-lug.59020/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-little-black.60065#post644093/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-orange-partridge.60531#post649609/

Ickypimp
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-hares-lug-plover.73924/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-old-master.75028#post739114/

Roll Cast
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/97519-classics-stoats-tail.97519/

Bigdon01
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-cormorant.109941/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/classics-grhe-nymph.110831/

Ben has made up a template to keep the format the same and I think it works very well.
Thanks guys, plenty more to come.

The Essentials
Scratch
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/essentials-grizzle-mink.56597/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/essentials-barden-killer-nymph.56124/
http://www.flyfishing.co.uk/threads/essentials-deer-hair-emerger.272676/
 
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Big thanks to everyone who has contributed to these. I love these threads, as a beginner I find them really useful. Keep em coming!

Cheers
Tom
 

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It would be nice to see these Stickied into a dedicated section of the Fly Tying Forums called The Classics. Ideally, in this section only Admin could start a new thread (i.e. by shifting a 'classic' thread (when deemed suitable) from here to there). Others could post in these threads but not start new threads. Over time we'll develop a rather nice reference section that doesn't get buried in other stuff, cr@p or otherwise.
 

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I started the Classics threads as I thought it would be a great way to learn more about the patterns that I used most. The response I got to the early threads was fantastic and all the effort that was put in was more than rewarded with lots of tales and variants shared by others.

It's great that others have decided to produce their own, and that it may have provided some enjoyment and info for others.

However I do think that in order to get the best out of the threads that a fair amount of effort has to be put in. IMO there should be some history, its important the pattern's are tied correctly with the right materials and its worth including a few variants that have worked. It takes me several weeks to sort out a classic thread as I'm still a relative newbie at fly fishing and would hate to be providing duff info for a reference based thread. I do believe though that the more effort put in, then the more people are prepared to give back.

Unfortunately I'm an bit of a fussy type, and it annoys me that they are not being kept 100% consistent but as long as people are enjoying them then that's all that matters.

I don't really mind about a separate forum space, if even just the thread titles stay consistent for example - The Classics: Black Buzzer then they are easy to search for.

I'm currently preparing the Black Buzzer and Green Peter but I still have a number of enquires and facts to straighten out before posting.

Cheers
Ben
 

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I think it would be a shame to see things like this get buried and archived.

Even the SBS section gets heavily watered down by misplaced threads, some poor quality SBS (ok line me up against the wall and shoot me now but I really do think the gems get lost in some very 'average' stuff) or good quality SBSs of poor flies etc.

So I think for your efforts to be appropriately rewarded, a stickied section is well worth considering with Admin.
 

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A sticky with them would be good. Could get all the links in maharg's first post and see if admin will sticky this thread so there all in one place. And could add to the post as more Classics come along.
 

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Totally agree with Ben. A layout format should be used and I think the one he has set up is spot on.
I have tried my best to keep to the original fly pattern as much as possible, but with some patterns over 150 years old, some minor mistakes can be made.
Stan suggested I was wrong with my Zulu, suggesting a wide silver rib. Who knows who is exactly right?
It is a minor issue, and as long as it is highlighted I think we can leave it to the individual tier to decide.
Think there should be a little vetting on the posts before they are sent into a "sticky section" though in-case there are any glaring mistakes.
I try to cross referance any patterns that I choose to ensure they are as correct as possible.
Think this is a great thread that Ben has started and I hope we can keep it going.
 

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Working on the links guys. It will take a bit of time but I have made a start with the Viva to see if it will work. Bear with me, a little behind in the computer workings.
 

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Please could we have a gold ribbed hare's ear ?

Never sure how broad to make the gold rib - I've seen some very broad but that does not "feel" right to me.

Charlie
 

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The format presented by the tiers is excellent, but there is one very salient piece of information missing. How to fish them. This vital piece of information to my mind is what can separate the tried and tested Classics from the many thousands of experimental flys presented on forums across the world.

This will become particulary important for anyone dealing with various styles of spiders and winged wets where the style has a massive impact on how they should be fished, upstream, downstream, dead drift, manipulated etc...

Whilst such info is readily available if one searches, it would be useful to have it here for any that are interested in tying and fishing the classics for the first time.

Just a thought :)
 

maharg

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The format presented by the tiers is excellent, but there is one very salient piece of information missing. How to fish them. This vital piece of information to my mind is what can separate the tried and tested Classics from the many thousands of experimental flys presented on forums across the world.

This will become particulary important for anyone dealing with various styles of spiders and winged wets where the style has a massive impact on how they should be fished, upstream, downstream, dead drift, manipulated etc...

Whilst such info is readily available if one searches, it would be useful to have it here for any that are interested in tying and fishing the classics for the first time.

Just a thought :)

Quite right, one of the things to add to the existing threads.
 

maharg

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North country angler (Matt) is going to cover another spider pattern on Sunday. Snipe and purple and a few variants /similair patterns. They will generally be of a dark/ black theme.
Just to give you all a wee chance to prepare anything you may like to add.
Later next week I intend to post a thread on the Bibio. Again if you have anything to add.
This section works best when we all contribute, so please, can we all get involved.
All the best to you and yours,
Graham
 
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