Paul_B
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Todays job, marking the line off into foot sections so I can cast better
do I have to add the leader length
do I have to add the leader length
Then what is the relevance of line weight or rod weights? The weight marking is not a minimum for the rod, nor a median nor an maximum, nor an optimum ...
If this is mostly true - I think it is btw - the rod makers should abandon the entire system and build rods with matched lines for particular fishing circumstances.
btw, has anyone ever calculated how much line you need to aerialise to shoot x amount of line?
So what's the answer, you big tease you?Yes, and if you think about it you do it all the time without thinking about it.
To be honest, I have not paid much heed with other rods before. I only noticed on this because of the colour change on the line.
As I said, this is more of an acedemic exercise, as 95% of my fishing is on rivers, where I would seldom be casting more than 30 or 40 feet of line anyway.
I raised this question as more of a "I would like to educate myself further" query rather than a "I need to answer this because it is affecting how I fish"
So what's the answer, you big tease you?
That's why we have such a large variety of different line profiles!What number is written on the rod butt is a 'guide' - no more no less. The rod maker doesn't know if the person who's buying the 9ft, 5wt is going to be fishing spiders at 30ft on the River Wharfe or targeting cruising, midge sipping rainbows at 75ft at Grafham.
I don't think it's a realistic expectation for rod manufacturers to build a range of 9ft, 5wts and try and label them for 'particular fishing circumstances' . . . Traditional Spiders, Chalkstream Dry Fly, Grafham Midge, Chub on the Ouse etc, etc, etc.
To go further would over complicate things here.
No, sorry. This isn't a given. For a lot of casters, the more line aeirlised (sp?) can quite often mean the less they can shoot. Shooting line comes down to having excess energy in the line, simply carrying more line doses't automatically give it more energy and I'd go so far as to say in most situations, quite likely the opposite.You already know that the more line you cast, the more you can shoot,
Somewhere in the house I still have a Sue Burgess 'Diamondback', 9ft, 4 -7. I once landed a 7/8lb salmon with it from the Teifi using a 5wt DT.I remember when rods would have #5-6-7-8 ratings and work well with all 4.
How heavy are they these days?Just buy a modern Fast glass rod and most of the above becomes totally irrelevant.
A main dealer friend of mine went on a trade rod launch day (Guide Fly. Fishing-Sage group) this Summer, where they were demonstrating how much more flexibility Modern glass has over Carbon- over lining and underlining rods by as much as #6 in both directions. The Carbon rods just couldn’t do it- where the S glass rods performed better.
He told me he was stunned at how well an 8’ #3 ‘glass rod could handle a #9 line
He admitted he was very sceptical himself until he’d spent some time playing with the offerings.
They also performed a “destruction test” loading a rod until it fails.
S Glass would take +12x the load before breaking to what a quality Carbon rod would. He said it was heart breaking watching them shatter £800 Carbon rods tied to a fork lift with a digital recorder.
I remember when rods would have #5-6-7-8 ratings and work well with all 4.
Getting very close to Carbon at the better end. Swift, CTS, Blue Halo, McFarland, Barclay They’ve not really taken off here like they have in the US yet, where about half the rod sales are now glass.How heavy are they these days?
No, sorry. This isn't a given. For a lot of casters, the more line aeirlised (sp?) can quite often mean the less they can shoot. Shooting line comes down to having excess energy in the line, simply carrying more line doses't automatically give it more energy and I'd go so far as to say in most situations, quite likely the opposite.
They actually feel lighter when casting than carbon- it’s a hard feeling to describe and you can fish with much finer tippets safely.
Shortcircuit does not say he is a novice but he has been playing with his new #4 rod, which he wants to fish at modest range. He does not say what # rating his new line is but says it has a 46ft head, which he is finding difficult to aerialise. I assume it is a #4 WF.Hi folks,
Am just playing about with my new 4# rod. The WF line I'm using has a total head length of 46 ft, and there is a colour change there. So I was thinking that for best shooting, I should get all that line out of the rod tip before I shoot. However it feels very cumbersome having that much line in the air
I know every rod is different, but in general do you get the entire head out before shooting, or would you get, say, 30 ft out and then shoot from there.
This is probably all a bit academic because I will be using this rod for river fishing where long casting is not so important
Is it not true up to the point where the casting distance starts to become uncomfortable to whoever's casting?No, sorry. This isn't a given. For a lot of casters, the more line aeirlised (sp?) can quite often mean the less they can shoot. Shooting line comes down to having excess energy in the line, simply carrying more line doses't automatically give it more energy and I'd go so far as to say in most situations, quite likely the opposite.