UV resin help

rincon60

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Hi

Although have had tying stuff for years Ive never really spent any time learning to tie but Ive set my self a challenge that by next season I will only use my own tied flies on the still water I fish most of the time.

Ive been looking at UV resin for some of the buzzers and nymphs which looks a lot easier than the hard as nails Im using for a few buzzers I tie.

However there seems to be a big price difference between well known brand like bug bond starter kit and UV torches on ebay etc.

Guess my question is, is it worth paying the extra or will they all do the job?

Or another option, by bug bond (or is there another one I should be looking at?) but get the touch shipped from China.

Any advice would be helpful as Im on a tight budget.

Thanks everyone
 

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"Bug off lite" and a ebay UV laser pen (for about £2.50) works fine for me
 
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jimt

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"Bug off lite" and a ebay UV laser pen (for about £2.50) works fine for me
Same here. Quite a few tiers use Hard as Nails as the final coat to in case of the UV being slightly tacky and also to add that extra gloss.
 

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Try Solarez thin uv resin, can get it and a torch on eBay for 12.99. I used to use 5 coats of sally hanson hard as nails to finish my buzzers, but now i use one coat of this uv resin and finish off with one coat of sally hanson :thumbs:
 

rincon60

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really helpful, thankyou

Can i ask, what the difference between bugbond lite and regular is?
 

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Ricon, BugBond do a lite version, but folk are actually recommending you use Bug Off, this is a different brand, can be found on ebay, and they also do a lite version.

I have been using Bug Bond since 2010 when it first appeared in the market place, and still use it all the time for my saltwater flies where large areas of the dressing need encapsulating, as it has an amount of flexibility. However, for about 3 years now, I have been using both Bug Off, and more recently, Bug Off Lite for the heads of all my my salmon flies and saltwater flies, where little encapsulating is required.

It is very much cheaper than BugBond, and for the use you are looking to put it to, would fit the bill perfectly. You also shouldn't need to finish the fly with a coat of SH or Hard as Nails to take away any tackiness, as after curing with the light, if you leave it exposed to daylight and better still bright sun light for a couple of hours, it should cure without any tackiness.
 

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Why get a product you need to apply a coat of varnish to, which is sort of self defeating, time wasting (which you're trying to save) & was never designed or made for fly tying ? Why pay cheap & pay twice ? Check this out, https://www.deercreek.co.uk/uv-resin it could be best to get it from a stockist at the moment, as they're having a short break out of the country,
 

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Why get a product you need to apply a coat of varnish to, which is sort of self defeating, time wasting (which you're trying to save) & was never designed or made for fly tying ? Why pay cheap & pay twice ? Check this out, https://www.deercreek.co.uk/uv-resin it could be best to get it from a stockist at the moment, as they're having a short break out of the country,
The solarez thin uv resin cures without any tackiness,it doesn't need to be varnished after! I use a coat of varnish just to make it a bit more glossy
 

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they are all rubbish and need coated with varnish.cellire varnish will give you the best finish for buzzers.:thumbs: save your pennies
 

rincon60

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they are all rubbish and need coated with varnish.cellire varnish will give you the best finish for buzzers.:thumbs: save your pennies
really? Can I ask why? Genuinely interested as was thinking about getting some
 

ngauge

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really? Can I ask why? Genuinely interested as was thinking about getting some

If you insist on using a UV Resin, use a UV Blue Laser Pen, cheapest and the most reliable results every time. Get a good set of rechargeable batteries and keep them charged. This is the only way to get consistent results with any UV resin but there will still be rubber tackiness to the touch. Even using a nail lamp will leave the rubber tack to them.

But, let's face it, unless your tying one fly or plan on using the fly immediately, then there's not much need for resin to be used. Even when it is used, you have to coat them in Hard as Nails or Varnish just to keep the shine. So what's the point of resin in the first place if you have to varnish them?

Over the years I've tried many and always returned to plain, fine, Cellire Varnish from Veniards.

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rincon60

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thats really interesting.

Ive been using hard as nails, 5 coats, which isn't a problem however I'm finding its not very resilient and after 2-5 fish the fly has had it.

I had hoped the uv resin would be tougher?
 

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I used to use Sally Hanson's (three coats) but I no longer use it - it's a pain in the derrière waiting for the coats to dry. I used to wait 24 hours, any sooner and I found it could go tacky.

I now use Loon UV Knot Sense. One coat, 15 seconds with a UV key-ring torch (£1.50) and it's good to go - no more poncing around with the old Sally Hanson's.
 

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. So what's the point of resin in the first place if you have to varnish them?
Because you can build up like epoxy but without the need to mix and without the drying/setting time.

Horses for courses - UV resin when it adds something, varnish when it doesn't.
 

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You can be creative with UV resin, not so with varnishes.
I tried Bug Bond, tacky finish.
Bug Off was fine, Deer Creek better, Solarez was also good. I'm now using Troutline own branded. I use a laser pen, UV Torch (recently bought as sometimes need a wider beam of UV) and a nail beauty UV light (wife found it in a charity shop). I'v never found the need to varnish afterwards apart from the Bug Bond rubbish.
 

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