vivarelli fly reel

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tipp angler

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Hi all. I'm thinking of in vesting into a few vivarelli fly reel for river fishing. It would be for trout on small to medium size rivers. I've heard that type of reel can be very good but also heard can be bad( type of reel not brand)😉. Just wounding if any of yourself have used them or same type of reel, id just like to get some feed back before investing that kind of money in getting a few of them for comp fishing. Thanks
 

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Hi they are not easily obtainable here in the UK.

That said I do have one, so mini review pros and cons and my opinion how I use it .

Overview Build quality good. Size is fine.

Pros, pulls line back in fast. So good for two reasons. Moving quickly to another place on the river. In theory you may cover more water than somone with a normal fly reel. And If u wading pull line quicky out the water when u fighting a fish is maybe better than that of a normal reel. To stop line tangles fish fighting.

Cons - parts of the gears do rust. High carbon steel reel is high resistance to wear but it does rust. Bearings rust they may have changed the model of bearing here since I got my reel but mine rust so keep both gears and bearings lubed up. Drag is internal...and not great for big fish over a pound,my personal opinion here taking into currant and how tight I would have normal fly reel drag here. It's preset drag that you can change with tools at home. But normally a one shot deal and bit fiddley. ( Had browns at over two pounds and frankly drag doesn't give u the kinda of contol on a normal reel even using finger pressure to help. Trigger does get in the way....i have lost fish to line wrapping around it. But you sub consciously change how you cast hold the rod so found this reduces with time re trigger issue.

Final observations. Reel is not an Omg game changer if that were the case normal fly reels would be gone. Its a good attempt that is close to other automatic fly reels out there Abu etc ie fast line retrieval with minimal effort. Humans hey, aren't we lazy.
So it's a specialized tool not for everyone and it expensive but does the job it was designed for and has the marmite quality love or hate type thing.
 
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Maxcatch do one works out about £100 delivered I think, I don’t own one but a friend bought one and he’s pleased with it.
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To be precise the Vivarelli is a semi automatic (each full pull on the lever will retrieve a set length of line). Automatic reels are those where one pull on the lever retrieves the full line, these are a pain to use in my opinion.

I have a “Viva” and have been using it for over 20years. It is especially useful for fishing silk line as it facilitates keeping the line on the reel and off the ground/water which is critical when wading (you don’t want your silk line hanging in the water).

Now mine is “pimped up” with a “kit Revival” from Peux (the Swiss reel maker, see here https://en.peuxflyfishing.com/kit-revival) which means I have a true state of the art drag system that I can adjust easily during fight (adjustment knob on the handle side) and a handle to manually retrieve line for fighting fish on the reel. It also has a slightly bigger arbor spool. Pimped up that way the reel is absolutely fantastic and it is hard to go back to manual after that as the semi automatic line pulling is so convenient and gains you a lot of time.

That said if you can afford it, the rolls Royce of semi automatic reel is the Peux There is also an aluminium version of the Vivarelli but for that sort of price I think the Peux Fulgor is a better reel.

Last but not least, you take very little risk buying a Vivarelli as they hold their value very well if you ever want to sell it. As a matter of fact you barely ever find any in second hand and when you do the price is very close from “new”; which also tells you a lot about how good these reels are
 
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last week I was fishing with a someone who has used them for years and he reckons for light lines ie less than 4 wt the maxcatch ones are better as the spool tolerence on the maxcatch is better and line doesnt get trapped as easily. I would trust his judgement .
 

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last week I was fishing with a someone who has used them for years and he reckons for light lines ie less than 4 wt the maxcatch ones are better as the spool tolerence on the maxcatch is better and line doesnt get trapped as easily. I would trust his judgement .
In 20years of use I never once had a trapped line issue on my Vivarelli, not even once! It s a full cage reel so mechanically I don’t see how you can have an issue of the line getting trapped.
 

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I have a jmc yoto and it's epic. U do need to keep the gears greased as they are open to the elements. Jmc Iberia reel is also a good option, I wish I'd bought that one for the extra features. A Spanish firm called Baetis also do an auto reel with manual wind handle too. There's also a max catch auto reel that has very good reviews.
 

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Thanks all very good feed back. Ya as for parts, seen video on reel and it looks mad taking it a part. Don't know if it's worth the hassle. Not sure about weight of reel because it's going on a 2# 9' 6" rod so weight is a big factor for balance. Line wrapping around handle I was told was a big problem
 

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2wt rod, well I would simply go for cheap light fly reel. You won't be casting far with it period.


The trigger type reel is for a fly line 5-7 wt certainly for longer casts than the 2wt can do so you would be wasting your money.

I am frankly amazed that anyone can recommend a fly reel over 500 euros as a normal choice they are very specialised.
 

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Thanks ice john. Don't think that's is for me, a lot of money to invest for to be fair that would be a nice few con's. The Only thing that was kind of pulling me in is that a lot of the big teams in river comps, worlds and euro have them so I was thinking there must be something behind it
 

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Aye the European chaps do like them but maybe down to the type of water they fish. Think most people build up their gear to match their local conditions.

The 2wt u mentioned perfect French leader or close accurate casts with small drys on light fly line.

European comps normally held on big rivers from the utube vids and well 2wt maybe not the best rod for that type of water. So 4-5 -6 wt rod longer casts etc maybe more successful and hence the trigger type reel on that rod might give you that extra few casts time wise that a normal fly reel wouldn't.


Like wise reels for bonefish need a decent soft drag setting abel built their reputation on this and quality of course. Horses for courses and all that.
 

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I have a Jmc yoto 30 yi can have of your interested £100 posted.

Better than the vivareli in my opinion as you can easily adjust the drag and its build quality is better.

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I have used an old Mitchell 710 automatic reel on and off - mainly on one water where, besides the utility of rapid line pick-up being convenient to avoid tangling in the bankside herbage, the lack of audible check is a distinct advantage; the trout are spooky as anything and will bolt for cover at the sound of a normal reel check. It's far from perfect though and much too heavy on anything less than a nine foot cane rod. I have wanted to try a Vivarelli ever since I saw them mentioned by Jon Beer in Trout & Salmon magazine about twenty years ago, but as noted elsewhere they are not easy to source these days and it looks like they have value engineered it from its original specification.

Nevertheless I will get one at some point, conscious that it would be a specialist reel for specialist occasions - Hardy Lightweights serve me fine on most waters.
 

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Ya to be fair I've only really been caught for an auto reel in very fast and rocky water. Other than that to be honest it never really came into my mind. I'm not a person to have load of line floating down the river anyway it's just around weirs and rocks the lines get caught up and damaged.
 

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Thanks anyway baztex1 still on the fench about getting one. I've been around a bit with reels I've spent really big money for reels and spools and the most of them were lovely in the box until you when fishing and turned out rubbish. So I'm back at my old faithful reel, It was the very first brand reel that's was bought for me when I started fishing, so o found more on line and went back to them. Nothing to go wrong inside them ,light and cheap on line second hand. The leeda LC 100 reel. Ive 5 of them with prob 20 spare spools for river and lake
 
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