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    Default Deep water grayling

    Hello All
    Bit of help needed, can anyone tell me how to present a nymph in slow deep water? While on my local Yorkshire stream this morning I noticed that my usual spots produced very little but while wading to the next pool through very slow water 2-4' deep it was teeming with grayling. So my question is how do you catch these fish when they have all the time world to investigate your patterns and realise that caddis has a size 14 sticking out of it's rear end.

    Cheers,

    Chris

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    Well tungsten adds weight and too much means yours hit the deck and don't move. If water is just that slow ie hardly moving spider patterns with few wraps of lead on longish leader probably you only bet. Or small tungsten flies fished under a bung drifting back to you. Am assuming you mean 4ft deep? It not that deep as seen people fish double that in fast water with very heavy flies.

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    50 percent of my Winter grayling will come from typical dry fly water that is about 3 to 4 foot deep .

    My approach is a simple level line or French Leader , 10 foot 3 weight fly rod , it pays dividend to dissect the river up to maximize your catch rate , high sticking at range , keep all the leader off the water , long cast upstream and keep in contact with the flies as you track them .

    I prefer smaller 2.5 mm tungsten beads for this approach , it might take 5 or so seconds to get them down , but once down they travel better on the river bead .

    Go up the river and cast at a 45 degree angle , imagine a 4 lane motorway , if you can keep dead drifting in all 4 food lanes , once you have covered the water then start to divide the river up in sections again , depends on the width of the river .

    Another approach is to put a little movement into the nymphs , Jigging is a great way of inducing a take , it takes a while to get the hang of it .

    Also the dead drift and swing in one go , give the nymphs a lift after they have swung round , just before they lose there pace .

    The more you target grayling in the flats then the more you will learn on the method and make up of the river .

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    You can tie your spiders with copper wire bodies in different gauges and colours so that you can tailor them to suit the depth and flow.
    I use them on stillwaters and allow them to drift around on the wind as a duo with a deer hair spider on the dropper, similar I would imagine as fishing those slow stretches.
    They are much more mobile than tungsten weighted flies but still get well down quickly.

    Just a thought, that might help.

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    It depends on how deep and slow it is. In moderate flows particularly if there is weed/debris on the bottom, I tend to fish a french leader and a short braid indicator with both given a good wipe of mucilin to keep them floating high. The tippet is generally 3.5 - 4.5 ft to the top dropper and an arm length to the point fly.

    Point fly is usually either a 2mm or unweighted fly and the point fly is usually 2.5mm.

    The key is to fish through the water column and leading/working the flies through the drift, lifting the line off as soon as the flies come within range.

    On some days you have to fish at range with the indicator laid flat on the surface, covering the water as Danny has recommended, using short drifts fishing mainly through the water but on others particularly if the bottom is clear you'll catch right under the rod tip when inducing a lift.

    It's all about varying the presentation and finding out how the fish want it on the day.
    Last edited by dave b; 13-11-2017 at 06:41 PM.

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    It's more or less the same as fishing the shallower fast water except you need to be quieter, more stealthy. Take it slowly and cover the depths as Dave put and section the river as Danny put. What you don't want is allowing the flies to just hang directly down. It can be difficult to keep everything slow as when you lift line of the water to get in contact with the flies, things tend to speed up. Also, try and get the drifts inline with any current/flow of the river. Going across again speeds things up when you lift as it's all too easy to drag across the current and not with it. For inducement/jigging, again slower or shorter movement. Takes can be very subtle as the fish have more time.
    I have a wife and daughter. I'm always wrong and outnumbered.

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    Default Re: Deep water grayling

    Thanks for the replies Gents
    Long range nymphing techniques would be very difficult, this is a very small N Yorks stream with most stretches covered by a low tree canopy with about 50% of my casts in the summer being bow & Arrow style. I think weighted spiders might be the way and maybe wading in then then staying static for 10 mins to give the grayling time to settle.

    Chris

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    Hi,

    Very interesting post gained some knowledge guys.

    Saltman.

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