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    Has the modern nymphing in all its forms, replaced the short rod single nymph or spiders cast up stream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by york1e View Post
    Has the modern nymphing in all its forms, replaced the short rod single nymph or spiders cast up stream.
    Not for me it hasnít. I still prefer the up stream spider over a nymph. Especially when the fish are in the top foot of the water.


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    No. Myself and Matt Eastham had a conversation about the apparent decline in 'proper' spider fishing whilst on the banks of the Aberdeenshire Don at Castle Forbes last May. The consensus being that perhaps the prolific use of emerger patterns being partly to blame. However, spiders ( fished upstream) can catch fish that are taking naturals in that 'difficult' inch or two below the surface. I had a decent trout in April that was 'bulging' at ascending large dark olives. I chucked everything at, DHE's, klinks, olives split wing emerger, plume tips etc. Nada. Even tried a drifting a small 2.0 mm bead single nymph to no effect. Tied on a spider (incidentally that Mr. Eastham gave me on the Annan a few months earlier) and fish took it on the first drift. Sadly I lost the fish, but every day a school day.

    A recent Grayling trip, exact same thing. Fluked a couple of 'risers' on #20 plume tip. Had an epiphany, tied on a #16 Waterhen Bloa and caught every fish I covered.

    Both are necessary for me, and in general nymphs will out fish spiders most days.....but on some day spiders are what you want, it is just knowing when !

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    Quote Originally Posted by york1e View Post
    Has the modern nymphing in all its forms, replaced the short rod single nymph or spiders cast up stream.
    I once read a clever quote a bout trends being like horses, where it was easier to ride them in the direction they want to go. Whether we like it or not, styles and techniques will evolve and us [followers] being us will be unable to resist that change. Sure, there will be advocates of traditional methods just as there are advocates of split cane and silk lines, but their voices will be drowned out under the chatter as sure as night follows day.


    If the internet had been around in the day, I'm sure there would have been debates about whether or not modern split cane rods will eventually replace the likes of greenheart, and I'm sure those same dissenting voices would have made themselves heard...

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    Yes I believe it has, in the context that people arenít fishing them as much as they should due to fishing modern techniques.

    and I donít believe it can be called a fad competition anglers have been using modern techniques for around 20 years.

    If I think of the people I fish with and the people I meet on a river bank, people I see using spiders is outnumbered around 10-1 by people fishing modern long or short mono leaders.

    If I think of people fishing upstream spiders on short rods the numbers are even less.

    I am of course speaking in general terms as I do agree with IL that each method has its place but people just arenít fishing spiders as much.


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    I prefer a long fly rod , more than likely I use a 10 foot 3 weight for nymph fishing , long French Leaders as I can fish at distance , I can cover the water and maintain long dead drifts .

    Spider fishing is done on the French Leader , just a case of changing from nymphs over to a pair of Spiders .

    I have found Spiders work well in shallow water , or when the fish are taking off the top .

    On the whole nymph fishing is a consistent way of catching both trout and grayling , I will switch to other methods as and when I feel like it .

    Nymph fishing is my bread and butter , lots of unseen fish lie in typical nymph water , but I do enjoy fishing Spiders , dries and the Duo as a alternative .

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    During most of my river sessions i will both nymph and spider. I fish Nymphs leader to hand in the faster, deeper runs, then go back to the start and fish Spiders on the same leader, in the shallow riffles. Works a treat and keeps it simple. I fish 2 flies on a 5 foot Flourocarbon tippet. Spiders (Black thread body, silver rib, red game hackle) work very well on my usual river and i wouldn't be without them.
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    All methods have their own merits, I must admit to really enjoying the French leader even though it can prove difficult in some conditions (anything more than a light breeze Modern Nymphing)
    I wouldn't say I was particularly competent in any river method, but always enjoy it whatever.

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    Modern Nymphing is something i need to add to my arsenal, i have only tried it a couple of times and never quite felt i was doing it right so binned it off on both occasions. Old dogs and all that, will do it one day.

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