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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    There are rules and then there's your conscience!

    You may not be breaking a rule and imitating a pellet may be fishing.....but it ain't fly fishing. I'm no upstream dry fly only purist, but that's my opinion.
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  2. #12
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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    People will always have their own opinion. If it isn't banned by the fishery it's really up to you to decide if you feel comfortable doing it. Personally, i don't like it, but if you aren't the one throwing in the pellets then you aren't baiting them.
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    Interesting. I use a pellet fly made from a tan coloured artificial wine cork, cut to size and stuck on the hook with superglue. I also use a bread fly made from elk hair and dyed tan. For some reason, I feel more comfortable with the elk hair than the cork! Both work as well as each other, though the artificial cork is much more robust. There are so few insects on the lake at this time of year that only lures catch, and they don't really imitate anything natural either, but seem to be more acceptable! Also I love catching fish off the surface. If the catch rate had been much lower, I probably wouldn't have given it a thought.

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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    Don't dis lures as not representing anything natural. Depending on the lure they can be a match (though loosely) for fish fry/small fish, damsel nymphs.
    I still can't see the argument of banning pellet artificial's if pellets are going into a water legitimately. After all, you are imitating what the fish are feeding on.
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  5. #15
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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    All depends on you.. personally I would prefer not to fish than catch a trout on a pellet fly . but there again I dont like using a squirmy worm for grayling , but would happily fish a bloodworm or buzzer pattern . A friend fishes a small foam beetle pattern with devastating results , I prefer to tie flies with natural material. truth is if its not breaking the rules then do it . But you could ask yourself are only going fishing to catch fish?

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  6. #16
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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    [QUOTE=wobbly face;2495788]Don't dis lures as not representing anything natural. Depending on the lure they can be a match (though loosely) for fish fry/small fish, damsel nymphs.

    Quite so, watch a dragonfly nymph crawling slowly along the bottom and you can see why such flies as Wormfly or Caddis work.
    If mud is ever exposed but not dried out at your local fishery take a close look at the mud trails left by insects as they head towards the new water level.
    Admittedly no natural insect will travel at 30 MPH which seems to be the "natural" speed that most local lure fishers prefer.

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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    You "matched the hatch" as it were so have nothing to reproach yourself with. Dick Walker always said, "observation plus thought equals fish". You observed, you thought and you caught fish.

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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    The fish were feeding on the pellets so you tied on an imitation pellet fly and you caught, is it really any different than watching fish going mad for mayfly then tying on an imitation mayfly and catching ? imo there is no difference, you go fishing and hope to catch fish and if you are happy catching that way then who cares. Yes they were more than likely fresh stockies but again so what, you got the sport you paid for and as long as you enjoyed it that is all that matters. Is catching a fresh fish on a damsel any more skilful than catching it on a pellet fly ? i dare say if you put a bare hook in the water you would catch them.

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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    I remember fishing a well known Cheshire still water, mentioning no names but its initials are Westlow Mere, early one January morning. A guy caught a couple on a bushy caddis, and I thought wow - good effort. My first fish from well down wind of him was taken on a small hares ear nymph, a fish I kept. Upon cleaning the fish later in the day I found it had a fair few undigested pellets inside.
    At the time and in certain conditions I suspect that this fishery was feeding its fish prior to anglers arriving...

    So, bushy brown caddis in January, matching the hatch or cheating?
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    Default Re: Is this cheating?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedros View Post
    I remember fishing a well known Cheshire still water, mentioning no names but its initials are Westlow Mere, early one January morning. A guy caught a couple on a bushy caddis, and I thought wow - good effort. My first fish from well down wind of him was taken on a small hares ear nymph, a fish I kept. Upon cleaning the fish later in the day I found it had a fair few undigested pellets inside.
    At the time and in certain conditions I suspect that this fishery was feeding its fish prior to anglers arriving...

    So, bushy brown caddis in January, matching the hatch or cheating?
    There are fly fishers and there are Trout fishers, I leave it to you to decide which is which.

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