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    Default Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    I'm new to Orkney and looking forward to gearing up for next season. I'm after some advice on lines and leaders for bank fishing and wading in early season.

    Line -
    Will floating be ok for all situations or would it be a definite advantage to have intermediate and/or sinking tip as well ?
    If using floating line, am I ok with those I already have, Greys Platinum Extreme (with shooting head) and Snowbee XS-DP ?

    Leader -
    I'm thinking of using a Leeda Profil Selecta, 15' long with terminal strength of 7lbs (or 5lbs ?), and adding two droppers of the same strength.

    Any advice greatly appreciated !

    Jem

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    Good post.

    Interesting to see the responses.




    Douglas


    p.s. Thinking of going to Orkney 2020.

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    Very early season floater from the bank/wade is line of choice as the taking fish are in the warmth of shallows. Stan Headley wrote that early season on Orkney he would be casting 20yds onto grass with only a few yds in the water, the fish were that close in. Loch fishers Bible would be worth looking at, as there is quite a bit of info on Orkney.

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    It does make sense, but casting over grass, and a few yards in the water takes a bit of getting uses to.

    However, logically, it's what you should be doing.

    Old habits die hard!




    Douglas


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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    I would'nt say it is the way to go in every situation, but it does emphasise how trout are not scared of the shallows.
    I have fished highland lochs on my knees before, but unfortunately my knees rebel, standing further back and working your way in seems like a better bet.

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    Id go for a standard floating WF7 set up, shooting head would be overkill and give poor presentation .

    Dont bother with a tapered leader , straight through 7lb with one or 2 droppers , check the OTFA site for flies .

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    Quote Originally Posted by codyarrow View Post
    I would'nt say it is the way to go in every situation, but it does emphasise how trout are not scared of the shallows.
    I have fished highland lochs on my knees before, but unfortunately my knees rebel, standing further back and working your way in seems like a better bet.
    I have much less experience than most on here but had a huge wake up call in this regard many years ago.

    I had been fishing a Welsh lake, wading the shallows and with only one trout to show for a morning's work. I retired to eat my lunch but rather than wind completely in I left my rod on the bank with the flies trailing a few feet from the bank in maybe 6 inches to a foot of water. When I picked my rod up after lunch there was a trout attached.
    There is a local saying, referring to salmon and sea trout rivers, that these will not fish well "until the bracken is tall enough to hide your bicycle"

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    I use my usual set up, I fish Intermediate all the time, I have a 10ft 3 fly cast,with my 5wt rod, it's what I use in the local lochs, I have had Orkney fish to 4lb, with this. also occasional seatrout around 2lb, now this suits me but may not be suitable for any others, go with what you know just vary the flies , easker1

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    Thanks to all the above posters for their replies.

    So, an intermediate line is best for presenting wet flies and lures in most situations, because you can strip them back horizontally at a chosen depth, whereas a floating line may tend to pull them up in the water with every draw ? Presumably I would still need a floating line to fish dry flies, or sinking flies in very shallow/marginal conditions, to avoid hitting the bottom ?

    Please excuse these very basic questions. I'm quite good at taking rainbows from small still waters - short cast, floating line, longish leader and a weighted lure dropped into holes, etc. In any other situation I'm a near-total novice.

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    Default Re: Orkney - line and leader advice for next season

    I'll leave it to others with more experience to answer but from my own limited experience with both a floater and intermediate you should have most bases covered. I much prefer fishing a floater as I like the visual aspect. The depth the flies will fish at will depend on various factors including leader length, weight of flies, wind drag, speed of retrieve, etc. I often only keep in touch with my flies and let the wind do the rest.

    An intermediate may cut through the wind drag if required as it fishes just below the surface. It may also be useful in calm conditions to not spook fish.

    I think the choice between one line and the other is often personal preference.
    There is a local saying, referring to salmon and sea trout rivers, that these will not fish well "until the bracken is tall enough to hide your bicycle"

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