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    Goldenloch

    Seemingly there is a rumour, and it is being spread maliciously that at the Goldenloch we are searching peoples bags, etc, before they go fishing and that we banning people that have dodgy flies, well if it true, then its good, cause if you have so called dodgy flies then they are not welcome here, What I did say however and for everyone’s benefit is the following:



    Flies usage at the Goldenloch Fishery;



    For our clients enjoyment we only allow traditional fly patterns, ones that best resemble natural flies, in winter lures are acceptable, but best ask if unsure before using, strictly not to be used however are Double or Triple hooks, wotsits, mitten, MOP, snakes, squiggles, squirmy worm, bait, worms, maggot flies as these are all pretty much bordering on best described as artificial bait fishing flies

    So for clarity, the above mentioned are basically artificial copies of worm type (Bait) and are not what we ( a selection of regular Anglers) consider, Fly Fishing Flies and although they are highly successful at catching fish we do not welcome there usage here, other fisheries may have different rules.

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    I would have no complaint if my gear was searched and inspected, fishery rules are fishery rules, if someone dislikes those rules, fish elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngolden View Post
    ... we only allow traditional fly patterns, ones that best resemble natural flies...
    What's your rules, as regards a Dunkeld? It's very much a traditional fly pattern, but it resembles nothing like any natural fly - or anything else in a trout's diet. Kingfisher butcher? Kate McLaren? Clan Chief? It's a big list when you start to assemble it...

    Col
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    Place I go in France has basically the same rules including single fly only and the owner walks around. If he spots a lure, streamer or blob then out you go and a second offense results in a permanent ban. He does accept North country wets though as he says they are more of a nymph pattern(please don’t ask me to explain that!) Same goes if he spots a fish suffocating on the bank. His rule is that any fish taken must be dispatched a.s.a.p.! Your place, your rules and if someone is unsure about a pattern being allowed then he should ask you before using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermontdrifter View Post
    ... If he spots a lure... then out you go
    Any idea what his attitude is towards a Dunkeld? Clan Chief? Kate McLaren muddler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    Any idea what his attitude is towards a Dunkeld? Clan Chief? Kate McLaren muddler?

    Col
    Like I said Col, I would ask before tying them on. In my experience this avoids a lot of misunderstandings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermontdrifter View Post
    Like I said Col, I would ask before tying them on. In my experience this avoids a lot of misunderstandings!
    The thing is Terry, you could end up sitting there, going through your whole fly box with the owner, getting judgment passed on 100s of different flies. Is an Invicta OK? How about a soldier palmer? A cormorant? A size 14 damsel imitation v a size 8 longshank goldhead damsel? Hundreds more to check...

    Half-hogs...

    OK?


    OK?




    If I had to walk round and check with the owner every time I felt like changing a fly, I would go elsewhere.

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    Don’t take this the wrong way but if you are carrying that many patterns then you are more of a competitive angler than a recreational one. On a smaller place like this one I think you could reduce your fly box by 90% and catch as many fish. I think I may have a total of ten patterns with me when on the water and I probably only use half of those on a regular basis. I also think that a lot of the patterns you are asking about could be lumped together in a general body type but after all I’m no expect and am in awe of the multiple patterns of wets which are used in the UK. At the end of the day it does all boil down to the fact that the owner sets rules and we need to try and follow them otherwise you vote with your feet and go somewhere that has rules you agree with. Life is too short to argue about details when there are fish to be caught!
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    For our clients enjoyment we only allow traditional fly patterns, ones that best resemble natural flies, in winter lures are acceptable, but best ask if unsure before using, strictly not to be used however are Double or Triple hooks, wotsits, mitten, MOP, snakes, squiggles, squirmy worm, bait, worms, maggot flies as these are all pretty much bordering on best described as artificial bait fishing flies
    Seems fine to me I'm sure a quick chat prior to fishing would sort out any issues, I'd have no problem keeping to those rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermontdrifter View Post
    Don’t take this the wrong way but if you are carrying that many patterns then you are more of a competitive angler than a recreational one.
    I'm purely recreational these days, but a boat angler, and I just have everything lumped into one big box that goes in one very big bag.

    But I take your point absolutely, regarding small waters. I was very much playing Devil's Advocate on the issue that what is one man's imitative pattern is another man's lure, and that there are few black and whites, and a whole lot of grey areas.

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