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    Default Ferrule size

    I have a sharpes of aberdeen 9ft 3ins spinning rod it has no ferrules on it I was wandering if anybody knew the size and best place to get them from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormforce10 View Post
    I have a sharpes of aberdeen 9ft 3ins spinning rod it has no ferrules on it I was wandering if anybody knew the size and best place to get them from.
    The best way forward would be for you to make contact with a local cane rodmaker/ restorer in the hope he has either an existing set of ferrules or a reclaimed set of suitable ferrules in stock. Size of ferrules is dependant on the existing size of the ferrule stations and have they been rounded or are the still hexagonal etc etc. Hopefully (and there are not many of us left) you can find someone local to where you live with the necessary experience and knowledge to help you out .
    Be mindful for a rodmaker to supply and fit a new set of quality ferrules may cost more than the rod is worth.
    Another point to note is that towards the end of production Sharpes like a lot of other cane rodmakers used whatever ferrules they had in stock so the ferrules that fit one rod model may not fit another rod of the very same rod model depending when the rod was made.

    Good luck
    Last edited by william henry; 11-06-2019 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by william henry View Post
    The best way forward would be for you to make contact with a local cane rodmaker/ restorer in the hope he has either an existing set of ferrules or a reclaimed set of suitable ferrules in stock. Size of ferrules is dependant on the existing size of the ferrule stations and have they been rounded or are the still hexagonal etc etc. Hopefully (and there are not many of us left) you can find someone local to where you live with the necessary experience and knowledge to help you out .
    Be mindful for a rodmaker to supply and fit a new set of quality ferrules may cost more than the rod is worth.
    Another point to note is that towards the end of production Sharpes like a lot of other cane rodmakers used whatever ferrules they had in stock so the ferrules that fit one rod model may not fit another rod of the very same rod model depending when the rod was made.

    Good luck
    Thanks very much for the info

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    I'm assuming the ferrules are just missing and not snapped off. There's a ferrule size calculator at the bottom of this page. Ferrules | R Chapman & Co Scroll down. Measure the section at the nearest point to where it has been rounded and refer to the chart. John will supply you with the required ferrules and anyone here who works at them can tell you how to fit them. Youtube's full of advice as well. There's no mystery here, just measure, buy, and glue on. John will advise you over the phone as well. Definitely an easy DIY job, it's a piece of p*ss. If the ferrules are snapped off the broken ends will need some attention but it's still not rocket surgery.
    If you run into difficulties PM me.

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    Last edited by splinters; 11-06-2019 at 06:13 PM.
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    “You pays your money and you takes your pick “
    Be mindful if you do take on Splinters advice then you will need access to a micrometer or a vernier calliper to measure the ferrule station and that the nickel silver ferrules as suggested are expensive where you or ano may be able to source a brass half set ( one male ,one female) for a fraction of the price .
    Good luck and keep us posted .

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    Some ferrule stations are built up with slivers of cane on the flats, shaping the edges of the cane tends to weaken it at the ferrule. I bought ferrules from Chapmans, they cost over 50 and needed lapping in so the male fitted correctly. It's not a piece of cake but needs patience, accuracy and care :-)
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    Default Re: Ferrule size

    Thanks folks for the info many thanks.

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    If a ferrule station is built up with cane slivers it’s normally because the builder has fitted an oversized ferrule.This was common practice towards the end of cane rod production when manufacturers used whatever ferrules they had in stock.
    Likewise some ferrule stations were made too small to fit a ferrule and the resulting loss in power fibre bamboo/cane introduced weakness where a rod should have been strong . This resulted Bamboo/ cane breakages at the ferrule station .
    Many well respected names from the golden age of cane rods carried out this mal practice as cane died and fiberglass came into vogue .
    Last edited by william henry; 14-06-2019 at 10:50 AM.

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    "If a ferrule station is built up with cane slivers it’s normally because the builder has fitted an oversized ferrule.This was common practice towards the end of cane rod production when manufacturers used whatever ferrules they had in stock."

    I don't agree. Richard Walker describes building up the flats of the cane to avoid trimming the edges of the bamboo, thus losing power fibres, in his excellent book on rod building. See page 35 and fig. 34.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofasurfer View Post
    "If a ferrule station is built up with cane slivers its normally because the builder has fitted an oversized ferrule.This was common practice towards the end of cane rod production when manufacturers used whatever ferrules they had in stock."

    I don't agree. Richard Walker describes building up the flats of the cane to avoid trimming the edges of the bamboo, thus losing power fibres, in his excellent book on rod building. See page 35 and fig. 34.
    Walkers book whilst a milestone at the time predated subsequent practices within the industry .Be mindful Walker was an amateur and not making a living out of mass rod production.

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