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    Default E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Hello,
    I'm new here, but don't know of a better place to ask.
    I acquired a 2 piece split bamboo flyrod hand signed : E. H. Percival, Gateshead It is a full 9 feet and in immaculate condition. It also has with it an Allcock ( POPULAR ) 3 inch reel made in Redditch ( appears to be old but newer than the flyrod ).
    Can anyone tell me anything about the maker of the Rod as I can find nothing in my research. I also ( although I can find several Allcock Reels cannot find this specific Reel.
    Thank you, watsonmil

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Hi welcome. I have a poor example of the same reel. My spool is good if you want it. Send us a bit more info on the rod and we will try to help.

    Best regards

    Chris
    The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. John Buchan 1st Baron Tweedsmuir.

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Thank you Chris, … but the Reel I have is in excellent condition. I live in Canada. I purchased the Flyrod from a 76 year old gentleman who now lives in Canada. He said he purchased the rod and used it in Yorkshire many years ago. He said he purchased it second hand from an older gentleman at that time. He said it has to be at least 65 - 70 years old as the original owner was an older gentleman and I'm now 76.
    This is all the history I have. Thank you, … Ron

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Drop a PM to Thomas Turner on this forum they maybe able to shed some light..

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Hello, watsonmil and welcome to the forum.
    I've had a search for you and drawn a blank. I agree with bluefrog that Thomas Turner are worth asking via the forum.

    I tried a different tact to Googling the name, I just Googled ''Gateshead Rod Makers'' figuring there haven't been many.
    I came up with a company called Cordes, Ingram & Smith Co (CISCo) who were based in the town and made bamboo rods. See this thread on the Classic Fly Rod Forum (also worth asking there. Include photos).
    It may be that E. H. Percival built for CISCO and also made a few 'foreigners' outwith the company? I know this happened at Alnwick with ex/Hardy makers in the past.

    If you are really curious you might try joining a genealogy website for a month's fee. FindMyPast has access to old newspaper archives as well as birth/marriage/death and England/Wales Census data. The Census data available ends around 100 years ago, possibly enough to find an E H Percival born but not to trace his professional history. However, you may find reference to him professionally in northern gazettes or newspaper adverts, thereby tracing your rod's age.

    It is also possible the Mr. Percival was a hobbyist who liked to make his own fly rods and passed a few on to friends in which case the paper trail is unlikely to be very visible.
    If you can take and upload a few pics of your rod it may help. You'll find a CISCo rod shown here on the CFRF for comparison.

    Good luck in your search. Like you I enjoy knowing a little of the history of my secondhand rods. I hope you enjoy fishing it, too.

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Surely E. H. Percival would be the original owner? signed on by the maker or themselves.

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    I considered that, too, Alan, but it's not that common to add a location to an owner's inscription hence my leaning toward Percival being the maker. 'Tis possible, though, sure.

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Chessman View Post
    I considered that, too, Alan, but it's not that common to add a location to an owner's inscription hence my leaning toward Percival being the maker. 'Tis possible, though, sure.
    Or maybe a local amateur builder now long lost.

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Gentlemen,
    I am overwhelmed and surprised at the response. I will send a PM to Thomas Turner, but not tonight as I've been up for 20 hours … 18 of which I've been helping my son & grandson prepare for a large Craft Show & Sale. I personally owned and operated two businesses for over 40 years. An Explosives Demolition Business and a very high end International Antique Business. I've done business with major museums around the world, movie studios, as well as governments. I know ANTIQUES. This E.H. Percival Fly Rod is no amateur creation, … but rather a professional maker. The name E.H. Percival and address Gateshead are under the lacquer and no purpose would be served by adding " Gateshead ". In addition this rod is a 2 piece rod and yet a full 9 feet. Usually on 9 foot rods and over they would be 3 piece rods.
    This rod handles as well as the most expensive of Fly Rods of current manufacture. I am not Technology up to date with photographing with a bloody Cell Phone, … but will have my son photograph it and I will post if I can figure out how to do it.
    In the meantime gentlemen, … I am grateful and pleased with your kind response.
    … Ron

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    Default Re: E. H. Percival, Gateshead

    Gentlemen, RE: E.H. Percival Fly Rod and ALLCOCK Reel
    I can't seem to post the photos my son took ( not great anyway ), … therefore is anyone willing to post them for me if I FORWARD the photos by email ( I'd need an email address ).
    Regards, … Ron

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