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Llys-y-Fran Reservoir, Pembrokeshire
Published by TroutAtlas
10-02-2011
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By diawl bach on 02-03-2011, 07:42 PM
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From RootsWeb: DYFED-L Re: [Dyfed] Llysyfran


In a message dated 13/03/2004 01:01:03 GMT Standard Time,
megphelps@optusnet.com.au writes:

> Llysyfran is more correctly written
> Llys-y-fran with a circumflex ^ over the "a". A lister can probably
> tell us the translation of this.

Llys y Frân, in modern Welsh, would translate into English as The Crow's
Court.

I am not a naturalist, so I don't know how "true to nature" such reports are,
but there are many claims in folklore that members of the crow family (rooks,
blackbirds, magpies etc.) form a ring around a bird of the same species and
make noises for up to two hours and then either fly away (not guilty) or
attack and kill the central bird (guilty - sentenced to death) - this is known as
Llys y Fran or the Crow's Court. A place called Llysyfran may be a place where
this phenomenon had been seen often.

The Rook is also a common device in heraldry, so there is a possibility that
a family who used this heraldic device held court at one time in Llysyfran.

It must also be noted that trying to work out the meaning of place names
without many examples of the name over a range of years can prove futile.

Two famous examples of pig's ears being made out of failed attempts to
translate a place meaning are Rhaeadr Ewynol (The frothy falls - because of the
froth caused by the water falling) where the Welsh word for frothy (ewynol) sounds
similar to the Welsh word for the swallow bird (y wennol) which is now known
as The Swallow Falls (near Betws y Coed) and Dyffryn Oer in Herefordshire
where a lack of distinction between both the Welsh and English words Oer / Cold
and Aur / Gold has turned "The Cold Valley" into "The Golden Valley"

So, it is posible that Llysyfran has nothing to do, whatsoever, with either a
court or a crow

All the best

Alwyn
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By sassuwunnu on 10-06-2011, 11:26 PM
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It may have something to do with Bran, the British mythical king/god, who had his head cut off on a raid to Ireland. It may be a grammatic mutation that renders Bran in this context to Fran, but im no welsh grammatical genius. He is associated with ravens too if that helps.
Other 'characters' from the Mabinogion hail from around that area...so it seems like a possibility....that if it is not a direct reference to Bran, because of the use of 'y' (the) it may be an indirect allusion.

anyway, the fishing is usually good....although last year on a number of occasions lots of small fish "escaped" from the cages....many below keepable size...and although once or twice we were told to put them back and discount them from our 'bags'.....it did mean that any fish i caught or heard of being caught was well under 2lbs.

dont know if that situation has been rectified or not.
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By diawl bach on 13-06-2011, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Llys-y-Fran Reservoir, Pembrokeshire

Thanks for that SW, the myths of the Mabinogi continue to resonate through the landscape - I'm half expecting to fall into the underworld through a hidden portal in the Cych valley one day, time will tell!

Llys Y Fran is in fine fettle this season, I've fished it quite a lot. The strong wind and bright skies have put the fish down more often than I'd have liked so a fast sinker 's been indespensable, however there's a very good stocking density which has made the journey over the Pselis worthwhile.Various patterns using orange microfritz patterns have worked well for me using a sinker, Diawl Bachs, GRHE and pheasant tail when they're up.
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By rhysmei on 10-08-2012, 09:03 PM
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Can anyone comment on how Llys y Fran (or Rosebush) is fishing this season? I'm in the area next week on holiday with the family and fancy some peace and quiet! Fished it from the bank before but ideally looking to take out a boat.
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By blew on 27-08-2012, 04:55 PM
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Hi did you manage to get to Llys y Fran? What was it like?
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By rhysmei on 27-08-2012, 06:27 PM
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Unfortunately I only managed a trip with the family (no fishing!) Weather wasn't great, one bank angler on the water when we visited and saw him catch a couple of stockies on the bank beneath the lodge. Apparently this is where a lot of the bait anglers congregate but none had turned out in those conditions. Having fished it before it's worth a visit although can sometimes be challenging. Move around if on the bank, boat gives more opportunity because the majority of the banks are steep and overgrown.
Tight lines!
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By blew on 28-08-2012, 11:30 AM
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Thanks for the reply, has any one got any tips or fly parttens, it's been some time since i fished a res.
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By Editor on 16-11-2012, 10:21 AM
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OCTOBER and November regularly prove to be good months for anglers who visit Llys-y-Fran Reservoir near Haverfordwest, whether they fish fly or ledgered worm.

Anglers fishing fly from the bank have been very successful in areas such as the Field, Badgers and the Top End, while using an assortment of lines from intermediate to DI7. The majority of good bags have been taken on intermediate and sink-tip lines.

Successful patterns have included flies such as diawl bach, olive lures, viva, black and green Montana, boobies and blobs.

Boat anglers are also doing well when fishing the Top End or the Point, with fish holding in numbers in these areas.

With a high water level experienced all season, fish have remained within the upper reaches in these areas, offering good sport.

Notable bags for those anglers fishing fly from the bank over the past month include three weekly best bags of 15lb 10oz, 19lb 4oz and 21lb 12oz.

Those opting to fish fly from the boat have been consistently producing good six-fish limits, while anglers fishing ledgered worm are also doing well within most areas.

Llys-y-Fran will be open for winter fishing up to December 16 from 9am to 4pm. The café will be open daily in this period.
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By geraint08 on 23-03-2015, 05:55 PM
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Anybody fished it yet this year, may pop down this saturday
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