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Llyn Cowlyd, Conwy
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15-09-2010
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By Ephemerella on 15-09-2010, 05:09 PM
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Cowlyd has a good stock of 'Torgoch' Salvelinus alpinus perisi - stocked when their home glacial lake was drained prior to becoming a hydro-electric pump storage reservoir.

They were going to farm and market them: https://dspace.stir.ac.uk/dspace/bit...ision%20R2.pdf

Nice to see Llyn Geirionydd on the same map - in the next valley - lovely place, poor fishing, but great for water-skiing and souped up speedboats.
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By Ephemerella on 15-09-2010, 05:30 PM
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The photo brings back memories:

First the family Fletcher 15' with tall straight 6 tuned Mercury two stroke fitted.

Second, my father going on about how 'Motoring News' set up a radar trap on the gatepost and how he was clocked at 117 mph on the night rally stage.

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By wildwelshbrownie on 26-09-2010, 06:52 AM
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Hi all, nice to see the Welsh lakes getting a mention. I have fished Cowlyd countless times, and have many great memories, possibly the best being a fourteen inch brown taken on a Dabbler in a howling wind, the first time I had ever tied on a Dabbler. Incidentally, Geirionydd is amongst one of the best lakes in North Wales for quality brownies and I have beaten the pound benchmark here on a number of occasions (shuttlecocks in a flat calm are lethal). You just have to choose your times carefully to enjoy sport, because of the trogs in boats. The char in Cowlyd are not large and I have managed only one that would make a really meal, a good number of the brownies in Cowlyd have taken to eating them and their is now a good head of ferox in the lake, but it is so vast that targeting them from the shore is difficult. A number of anglers from the Ogwen Valley region use rapalas and the like and do have success, one guy even used a mouse fly there to good effect! I prefer the fly rod and a long walk and by the time you have made two circuits in a day you are ready for home!! Kind regards, Terry
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By sewinbasher on 26-09-2010, 08:51 AM
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I remember an article in International Flyfisher which featured Paul Burgess of Coch y Bonddu books fishing on Dulyn and getting some nice fish to a dry. I would not think that there are genuine ferox in Colwyd, more likely a few browns gone cannibal which is not the same. However ferox are often linked with char...so who knows!
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By Ephemerella on 26-09-2010, 11:37 AM
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I remember an article in International Flyfisher which featured Paul Burgess of Coch y Bonddu books fishing on Dulyn and getting some nice fish to a dry. I would not think that there are genuine ferox in Colwyd, more likely a few browns gone cannibal which is not the same. However ferox are often linked with char...so who knows!
The upper Llanberis lake - Llyn Peris - was drained and the Torgoch charr population stocked in Cowlyd, to ensure the sub-species' survival. Renowned salmon angler Capt. J. Hughes-Parry in his 'Fishing Fantasy' devoted a chapter to the Ferox of this lake, I don't see it as unreasonable to assume that more than a few juvenile ferox made it into Cowlyd, in and amongst the shoals of netted torgoch, that is.

My sister sold her copy to Paul Morgan of Coch-y-Bonddu books, after receiving an offer too good to refuse, I still have mine - some books are too good to sell.

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Paul, is it possible that you got your Pauls mixed up?
Paul Burgess, who founded BVG Airflo, did live in the area where his, then, wife Sue ran her fly tying materials company.


Ian Niall, late of Llandudno, wrote some interesting articles on fishing Cowlyd using bushy black dry flies.
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By sewinbasher on 26-09-2010, 12:35 PM
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The upper Llanberis lake - Llyn Peris - was drained and the Torgoch charr population stocked in Cowlyd, to ensure the sub-species' survival. Renowned salmon angler Capt. J. Hughes-Parry in his 'Fishing Fantasy' devoted a chapter to the Ferox of this lake, I don't see it as unreasonable to assume that more than a few juvenile ferox made it into Cowlyd, in and amongst the shoals of netted torgoch, that is.

My sister sold her copy to Paul Morgan of Coch-y-Bonddu books, after receiving an offer too good to refuse, I still have mine - some books are too good to sell.

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Paul, is it possible that you got your Pauls mixed up?
Paul Burgess, who founded BVG Airflo, did live in the area where his, then, wife Sue ran her fly tying materials company.


Ian Niall, late of Llandudno, wrote some interesting articles on fishing Cowlyd using bushy black dry flies.
I may have done, I can't remember which of the Pauls it was in the articles! Of course I know that it's Paul Morgan at Coch y Bonddu and I remember Sue Burgess being based up here. I'll check and see if I can find which one it was.
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By wildwelshbrownie on 29-09-2010, 06:25 AM
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Great to see that there is still real interest in the high lakes! As regards Ferox in Cowlyd, I think that they have always been there, it is just that stroking our flies literally through the surface layer only has handicapped our chances of taking them. The char also come down the pipes from Dulyn above and I have spoken with the workmen who clean the filters and they tell me it is (or was) a regular occurrence to find them in the grilles. I have caught two trout on the fly which had just eaten another trout and the tail was in the back of the throat! Undoubtedly Llyn Cowlyd fulfills all of the conditions outlined by Ron Green in his Ferox book, ie: glacial ribbon lake, immense depth, oligotrophic conditions and volume of water etc. I am convinced that the Ferox community in Cowlyd is far far greater than anyone can imagine, but without a boat, and the proper or usual tackle, chances of taking them consistently will always be small, nice to dream though eh! Incidentally Cowlyd is the only place where I have been taken off my feet by the wind in all my years of fishing the high lakes. I still caught fish that day though!
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By Schrodinger's cat on 10-11-2010, 12:41 PM
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Llyn Crafnant, the middle lake pictured on the satellite map, received its own stocking of rare charr yesterday:

Rare fish on verge of extinction sets up new home in Conwy Valley - North Wales News - News - Daily Post North Wales



A BACK-UP population of a rare fish under threat of extinction has been released into a North Wales lake.

About 800 young arctic charr, a species which can only be found in a few deep, cold lakes across the region, are now swimming in Llyn Crafnant in the Conwy Valley, thanks to Environment Agency Wales.

The creatures are under threat of dying out in Llyn Padarn, Llanberis, and setting up a second brood has ensured they will not become extinct altogether.

An explosion in the population of potentially poisonous blue green algae at Llyn Padarn last year is also being investigated, in a bid to improve the water quality there.
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By noeyedeer on 16-08-2013, 12:56 PM
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Incidentally, Geirionydd is amongst one of the best lakes in North Wales for quality brownies and I have beaten the pound benchmark here on a number of occasions (shuttlecocks in a flat calm are lethal). You just have to choose your times carefully to enjoy sport, because of the trogs in boats.

Terry
Up at Geirionydd today. Nice spot, not fishing - doing a bit of gorge scrambling with the kids.

Conflicting views on trout population : Wikipedia reckons its poisoned and barren?

Anyone know where you can get a permit?

Also, any news on how those charr are doing over in Crafnant?

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