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5.9K views 41 replies 19 participants last post by  diawl bach  
#1 ·
Right folks, not down to the last penny but what do you class as reasonable costs for a season ticket or syndicate costs for small rivers and streams in relation to stocking or not, river banks kept or overgrown to death, access to the water, parking even fish in them in the first place, methods allowed etc
hopefully once some answers are up i will give my reasons for asking and we can discuss further
cheers
 
#3 ·
Very hard to answer, many factors affect 'reasonableness'. Location, demand, quality of fishing and the costs of leasing prime waters are all important. There is excellent fishing to be had near me for well under ÂŁ100 a year and other rivers are still excellent value at 3 times that.

If the club/syndicate stocks the river, I wouldn't pay a penny for membership. No interest in catching stocked fish from a river.
 
#4 ·
I pay ÂŁ25 a year for Trout and Grayling on an 8 mile stretch of the mid Clyde. The association is involved in river management and habitat conservation. As far as I know they do not stock.

Another club close to me, The Paisley Abercorn Angling Club, charges ÂŁ50 + a one off ÂŁ10 admin fee for first time joiners, this gives about 6 miles of urban river, which is in a shocking state in some parts with dumped items, trolleys, washing machines, tyres etc. There is a thread on here about the state of this stretch of the river and the lack of maintenance.

The River Kelvin Angling Association charge ÂŁ75 for a new member that covers the entire length of the Kelvin, 21 miles. They are involved in river maintenance.

The Peebleshire Trout Fishing Association offers 23 miles on the River Tweed for ÂŁ40 for 9 months. They are very involved in river maintenance.
 
#21 ·
Depends on the area and the demand....add decent salmon into the equation and prices can rocket. In North Wales ÂŁ100 to ÂŁ150pa can get you decent club fishing for all species. ÂŁ250 p.a. would get you a salmon rod for 1 day per week on a decent private Dee beat.
Like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
 
#23 ·
I have for some time looked in on the forum and seen people commenting on "having went out for a couple of hours" to their local water and at times having reasonable sport and an odd nice fish amongs them (fish big enough to put a bend in the rod at least) now i mainly do sea angling both for fun and competition but i would not do it "for a couple of hours" what with the time spent getting there and setting up it would hardly be worth dirtying the gear, therefore back to my local waters and indeed local club which would be the obvious place for short sessions however the state of the rivers are dire one is a ditch about 3 feet wide 6-8inches deep and a silty bottom it has no place even being on the list as a viable venue to try, the others are also a chore with the state they are in there is to my knowledge no stocking and a lack of many fish that would get the juices flowing even the very occasional heron looks distinctly anorexic, and there is a distinct lack of sensible parking I do not blame the local club as they are probably like many nowadays very little members and nobody coming thru the ranks.
I will not name the club or waters as others may depend on it to a degree financially so i will be vague with the following info
a season ticket cost's less than ÂŁ80 you get a few "rivers" some of the stretches are very short and 1 loch which gets an odd small stocking,of rainbows there are some wild brown trout,the bank fishing is rather limited and the algae bloom is the eight wonder of the known world. i cannot bring myself to fish these waters regardless of what they do or do not cost. I am a member of a couple of stocked reserviors that have good facilities and quality fishing but they are not the places for a couple of hours it takes that time to get all that goes with boat angling to load everything up and there is no bank angling therefore i tend to have full sessions on them, my only alternative is some of the small fisheries which are fine now and again but even their numbers have dwindled in recent years, hence the reason for my original post to see what others expect of their local waters etc. Perhaps i am looking for too much, or maybe it's victor meldrew syndrome
Time for a brew my thoat is parched after that, cheers
 
#24 ·
"having went out for a couple of hours"
Geography, geography, geography.
I am lucky. I can catch wild browns and fish for salmon and seatrout a 5 minute drive away.
Fly fishing for bass and mullet is further, maybe 20 minutes, and three excellent large reservoirs with great brown trout fishing are between 30 mins and an hour away by car.
The river browns are small, the salmon and seatrout rare, and the bass and mullet, rare or plentiful but so difficult as to be off putting.
I am jealous of people in the north of England and Scotland with access to rivers containing wild non sea run 4lb+ brown trout, these are incredibly rare (unheard of) in Cornwall, and also of those with access to salmon rivers with strong runs.
Fish for what what you can locally or accept the travelling necessary for whatever you want to catch. Better still up sticks and change your geography.
 
#26 ·
One factor that has not had much discussion is how much company you are prepared to tolerate. Simply put the cost of fishing is rent+stocking cost (if any)+other costs divided by the number of rods/members. The better the quality of the water and the fewer the number of rods the more expensive the ticket. The Prince Albert has several hundred beats and around 8,000 members paying a cheap sub, there's a few very good beats but inevitably very many more are just average or poor beats so the better beats can get very busy in peak season. (Also, only about half the membership and water portfolio is game fishing.) On the other hand a 20 member syndicate on the Test is going to be very expensive.

An exception would be a club that owns much of its fishing thereby eliminating rent from the equation, I belong to a club limited to 45 members that purchased most of its 4 miles of the Monnow about 50 years ago, the maintenance budget is generous, bailiffs are employed, there is some light stocking but the annual sub is less than ÂŁ200 and the highest number of members likely to be fishing on any given day would be 8 at the peak of the mayfly but more usually only 2 or 3 would be on the water.
 
#27 ·
I fish club water on several rivers in Cornwall. As I said upstream it's ÂŁ100 p.a. for 15 miles of good water, not withstanding historically low stocks of migratory fish.
After maybe 10 days on the beats this year, I saw my first fellow angler yesterday. Busy it ain't.....
 
#29 ·
My local is around ÂŁ65 a season for about a tad over 8 miles of river fishing, salmon, sea run brownies, wild brownies & some escapee coarse fish due to flooding of a near-by canal, mosrly double-bank. There are also 2 man made ponds which provide an assortment of coarse & game fishing.
 
#37 ·
well jealous of your bladder and bowel capabilities, by the way how do you get to your fisheries hitchhike, taxi, space hopper as i take a vehicle and i would rather it was parked in an appropriate place as opposed to abandoned at the side of a road or left down some track and hope it was not in the way of someone, that's how many marks and venues have been lost to many outdoor activities fishing being one of them
 
#38 ·
Then you are the same as some, different to others, that's all. Sorry but it seems you think we're wrong to be different?

As much as I live in the South East where things are bit more crowded, way more expensive (albeit I'm luckier than many on my costs), and I get that, it's not the reason that I much prefer my time fishing in the mountains in Australia or an Exmoor river in Devon, I just prefer the quietness, to me more interesting rivers, and a good bit of exercise where you don't get out of the car and into the river or lake...